The TrumpCare comes back from the dead (...and lives!) thread

[GlobeSoc]

As long as it's stuck in the house, it won't hurt the GOP that much. If it gets to the senate, it will be painful for the GOP. If it passes the senate, it will stab the pubs in the back. If Trump signs it, it will shoot the republicans in the head.

[GlobeSoc]

As long as it's stuck in the house, it won't hurt the GOP that much. If it gets to the senate, it will be painful for the GOP. If it passes the senate, it will stab the pubs in the back. If Trump signs it, it will shoot the republicans in the head.

Don't be naive....the GOP was rewarded in states that expanded Medicaid....just look at Kentucky

Trump will say it's great and his cult will believe it's fine even as they rack up medical bills

The GOP has the presidency, they'll take the hit.

[GlobeSoc]

They're doing a riverboat gamble. They're down about five votes in the House in one estimate. Webster is a yes (as I predicted). Fuller thinks it is a jump ball.

I'm skeptical that Issa, Curbelo, Coffman, and the other potential no votes I listed are actually going to walk the plank. Maybe they will but I am skeptical. David Young was a no but is now a maybe.

The thing I keep thinking about is why would House Republicans vote tomorrow to pass the bill when they know the Senate will be vastly more moderate and change it substantially? And why would they want to have that on their records in 2018 as they run again? The midterms may be older and whiter but they're also a midterm where Trump is at the 40s.

The attack ads write themselves. I think they're so jammed right now between the activists and the electorate that they seriously are doing jump ball without a CBO record. Which may in fact bite them in the arse.

The question to me, why risk it all? Why not kill the bill and repair ObamaCare, like a lot of other center right parties have done and take the credit? Repair it, move it to rhe right, and then claim credit?

The biggest reality is that this is a temporary 10 year bill. Meaning in ten ears they'll have to hope a Democratic White House isn't in place and that one chamber isn't in Democratic hands barring that. Given we almost certainly will have a Democratic White House by 2025 at the latest thats optimistic. That assumes no crisis.

I haven't even pointed out that the ACA has helped with the debt crisis coming in. So we'll see.

In other words the long term upside to fixing Obamacare is so much better than this.

Anyway I could be wrong and they pass it… but my gut says 213 yes, 218 no. Almost certainly it will die in the Senate.

I'm starting to think that your timeline might be slightly derailed from the GOP being idiotic as an institution.

[GlobeSoc]

This bill allows companies to gut their employee insurance plans, bring back lifetime limits.

So I guess this affects most americans. Basically every form of insurance is going to be worse.

[GlobeSoc]

https://youtu.be/NQYCT2HEfhQ?t=869

A true luminary in the Republican Party

In an mirror-1894esque wave, I suppose he could go down

[GlobeSoc]

https://youtu.be/NQYCT2HEfhQ?t=869

A true luminary in the Republican Party

In an mirror-1894esque wave, I suppose he could go down

If ID-1 was the ID-1 of 2006, it wouldn't take a 1894-style wave to drag Labrador down. I'm not so sure about the ID-1 of 2017 though.

For those who are unaware, this district continues to be transformed by waves of out of state migrants who are importing foreign far-right ideology to this district, bringing with them a style of Evangelical Christianity that never existed here in 1970, insane notions of governance and so on. Sadly, I think these nuts have influenced rural locals.

What states are these people leaving?

[GlobeSoc]

If they ram through and pass a medicare-killing law, that's a surefire way to cancel out the Trump gains in rural areas.

[GlobeSoc]

If they ram through and pass a medicare-killing law, that's a surefire way to cancel out the Trump gains in rural areas.

They'll spin it and (successfully) pin the blame on Obamacare, just watch.

I said cancel out the gains, not win these areas.

[GlobeSoc]

U Can't Handel This.


I suspect an amazing victory in GA-06 will result in Yuge Trumpmentum to pass Obamacare repeal.

Good luck getting affordable health insurance that covers your pre-existing conditions of herpes