Obama now winning California by 25 points while Prop 8 probably passed (user search)
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« on: November 05, 2008, 10:32:28 AM »

probably the last ray of light before the coming darkness.  but, in the end, God's word will stand forever!  Amen.
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« Reply #1 on: November 05, 2008, 10:42:10 AM »

in the end, God's word will stand forever!  Amen.

agreed.  too bad this prop won though.

why? you think God's word supports gay marriage?
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« Reply #2 on: November 05, 2008, 11:40:08 AM »


not any more than it supports you marrying your yourself, or your pet, or your pencil.

God is the one that created the two different sexes and God is the one that created the institution of marriage between the sexes.  And God is the one that placed human sexual relations within the context of marriage.  

He didn't create a marriage among the same sex.  And he went on to condemn human sexual activity outside of the context of a heterosexual marriage.

these are facts no HONEST reader of the bible can deny
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« Reply #3 on: November 05, 2008, 11:43:20 AM »

If it passes, it passes because of blacks. Latino split on it and whites (narrowly) voted it down, according to the exit polling anyway. Sad.

A lot of blacks in this country still need to wake up and realize that social justice doesn't begin and end with them.

can someone please tell me how homosexuality equates to skin color?
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« Reply #4 on: November 05, 2008, 11:52:02 AM »

jmfcst, your ghost in the sky is a bigot.

yes, he only takes pleasure in truth, he is very bigoted against deceit.  Which is why he sent his word and personally came to earth - so that we could have truth and walk in truth.
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« Reply #5 on: November 05, 2008, 12:25:33 PM »

Also, because I can't resist this, the fables you outlined as being the basis for *your* rejection of same-sex relationships are only one part of a complex and contradictory set of prescriptions and proscriptions about sexuality from the bible.

the only examples of same-sex-sex in the bible are negative - and the only allow sexual activity is in the context of a heterosexual marriage........what's so complex and contradictory about that?  seems extremely simple and uniform to me

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I suggest you read John Boswell's 'Christianity, Homosexuality, and Social Tolerance' as a reference. Christianity has a long history of embracing same sex relations and relationships stretching from its earliest days to the early modern period. The prohibitions against it are either Talumdic (therefore not required for Christians, as per the decision of the Council of Nicea) or apostolic (originating from the writings of people like St. Paul and St. John - thereby not the word of God, but of man).

if you want to make a SCRIPTURAL case for homosexuality, then be my guess.  But please leave out the traditions of men, I have no use of them.
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