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« on: July 13, 2021, 05:13:51 AM »
« edited: July 13, 2021, 05:17:14 AM by Laki »

Good morning. Cuba deserves to be free. Hopefully this will amount to something tangible in their quest for freedom, but I'm not really optimistic.

Trouble is, for too many "free" means a return to the Batista days.

This.

I give my full support to the Cuban government.

It's not like where communism was overthrown, life is better today (if you take in account forty years of progress in the world). Russia is the prime example of that. The only communist nation that did improve substantially was Eastern Germany as it was merged with West-Germany where democratic traditions were in place for a far longer time.

Democracy in Cuba will be possible when America and other imperalist powers cancel sanctions. I'm sure that with a different approach Cuban leaders will certainly add democratic reforms. But like this, you're just sowing the seeds for another "revenge dictatorship".

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« Reply #1 on: July 13, 2021, 01:52:30 PM »

Good morning. Cuba deserves to be free. Hopefully this will amount to something tangible in their quest for freedom, but I'm not really optimistic.

Trouble is, for too many "free" means a return to the Batista days.

This.

I give my full support to the Cuban government.

It's not like where communism was overthrown, life is better today (if you take in account forty years of progress in the world). Russia is the prime example of that. The only communist nation that did improve substantially was Eastern Germany as it was merged with West-Germany where democratic traditions were in place for a far longer time.





Russia is clearly better off today than it was under Communism
Compare Russia relative to the world of 1980 with Russia relative to the world of 2021. I think the answer is going to be different.

I also admit life could have been better, but i'm also talking about the latest communist days, not the early revolutionary Russia (especially the Stalin years), as I think Stalin is the most evil man to have lived on this world.

Like i would have been a defender of the revolution, and even I would have been purged by him, because I would have had the guts to openly criticize Stalin. More openly, i think everyone who dares to call himself a communist, could not be considered a communist if he wouldn't try to kill Stalin back in the days. I would have done everything to eliminate him, even to the expense of my own life.

That's why I think Krushchnev is perhaps one of the best world leaders we've ever seen, because he was able to destalinize the USSR and through that possibly prevent much worse, including an actual nuclear war and more domestic casualties. I'll always admire him for that.
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« Reply #2 on: July 16, 2021, 05:08:38 AM »

TANKIES = TRIGGERED


I'm not triggered. It's the right thing to do. I would do the same if i was AOC.

The most important thing is to stop the blockade, but that the country needs to be more democratic and respect human rights is something that indeed needs to be done (and that i believe can be done). Most Cubans want Cuba to reform. I think it's about time it does. And Cuba desperately need democratic reforms.

What I do hate though is that Cuba is seen as an evil nation, which it is not. Many Cubans do much better than in other third world countries. Just compare Cuba to Haiti, and you know enough. But that something should change in the country is obvious.
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« Reply #3 on: July 17, 2021, 04:26:23 AM »

https://twitter.com/YoungLabourUK/status/1415995244781395975

Can we ditch the Labour elite and promote Young Labour.
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« Reply #4 on: July 17, 2021, 12:03:44 PM »

Young Labour.s shows again to the electorate how much the voters made the right choice.
Yes by rejecting Starmer.
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« Reply #5 on: July 28, 2021, 02:57:50 PM »
« Edited: July 28, 2021, 03:01:50 PM by Laki »


It already happened and it resulted in the Tories winning their largest victory since 1987 and Labour suffering their worst defeat since 1935
This is 2021, not 1987.

It's not like the old Labour elite can win elections too.

Secondly, you have to invest in the future, it will take multiple elections to re-invent your brand. Politics is rotten to the bone, and you know why... because politicians only care about the elections of tomorrow, not in what is right.

British voters showed they don’t want Old Labour style socialism.
And neither do they want Labour style third way neoliberalism.

You know the drill...

For one century long, it will be Tory up and Tory there... but I do not participate in trying to get as close to the center or the opposition, and not be dare and voice support for things that are meaningful. I want change, and at this point Labour is not the vote for change (even if Tories are the incumbents now).

You have to create and get new ideas, you have to build a new brand with grassroots support. If they can't do that, perhaps Labour has no reason to exist...

If trying to get as close to the center and trying to get as close to the Tories to convince more & more centrist voters is the strategy, it means you can just vote Tory. If i want more of that, i could just vote for the original, i mean.

I don't care at the moment... I mean at this point, they could just disband... they're better off without some opposition.
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« Reply #6 on: July 29, 2021, 11:35:40 AM »

I don't care at the moment... I mean at this point, they could just disband... they're better off without some opposition.
What makes you think that there wouldn't be opposition considering that some other party will fill the void of Labour if it dissolved like the LibDems or Greens or some new party?
I didn't mean that, i just meant UK is probably at this point better off without Labour if they refuse to be a "leftist" voice. I doubt LibDem would fill the gap. The Greens might though long-term but they cannot win either.

EDIT: if we want to continue the discussion, perhaps do it elsewhere because I just see this is a Cuba thread?
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