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DINGO Joe
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« on: June 20, 2021, 03:20:45 PM »

‘Italygate’ election conspiracy theory was pushed by two firms led by woman who also falsely claimed $30 million mansion was hers


Her name is Michelle.  Her last name has been Golden, Ballarin, Roosevelt Edwards, maybe some others  either involving marriage or whatever she wanted to call herself at the time.

She married a rich guy in 1979 who she met while a student at WVU.  She was 24 he's was 59.  She ran as a Republican for Congress in 1986 in WV and lost by the usual amount.  Got divorced, married another older man and relocated to outer NOVA in the 2000s and ingrained herself with the upper crust there but also got involved in delusions of being a savior of Somalia.

It led to wacky series of claims and events chronicled here

Pirates and warlords aside, Michele Ballarin believes she can turn Somalia around

By 2009-10 everyone kind of figured out that she was a total wack job though there were new rubes to try to sucker in, but for most of the 2010s  she disappeared, until 2019 when as Michelle Roosevelt Edwards (the Roosevelt Edwards name was in honor of her grandfather), she bought the rather meager assets of a failed Icelandic airline, WOW, and made wild claims of how she was going to reinvent air travel.

A West Virginia Heiress-Turned-Arms Dealer Bought Wow Air and Will Restart Flights Next Month

So, that led to an Icelandic media group to go to NOVA and interview Michelle at her palatial estate

Waiting game or game over? The story of New WOW

Except it wasn't her estate, the people who own it don't know her and she had no right to be there (though she does have a relator license and the estate is for sale)

So, that leads us all back to original link of a fake woman and fake companies sending fake letters to a desperate dumbass like Mark Meadows leading to a referral to the DoJ which the DoJ called "pure insanity"

Or as Republicans like to call it--Tuesday.

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« Reply #1 on: June 20, 2021, 03:23:14 PM »

I read this somewhere on Insta and actually thought the whole story was some kind of joke. No, Trump world is actually that crazy.
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« Reply #2 on: June 20, 2021, 03:34:13 PM »

It’s super weird the anti-Italian current of the Trump administration and MAGA crowd when Italian Americans are a sizable Republican leaning urban population across every city and are very much into Trump’s tough guy persona. Trump attacks Italian Americans like Cuomo so harshly by calling him a Fredo and there was the one attack where QAnon murdered an Italian mob boss but never attacked any other white figures from other ethnicities of organized crime. I don’t get it.
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« Reply #3 on: June 20, 2021, 05:12:13 PM »

Like the OP said, just another day for Republicans. I have been toying with the idea of calling them BSP (Bath Salts Party).
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« Reply #4 on: June 20, 2021, 05:52:18 PM »

I do not know if it was done from Italy but facts demonstrate that many machines used in the elections last year were vulnerable to sabotage, including sabotage from the internet. That alone is enough to require a thorough examination of how the machine count compares to the legitimate paper trails. In New Hampshire recently it was found that the machines were over counting one candidate and undercounting another.
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« Reply #5 on: June 20, 2021, 05:54:01 PM »

I do not know if it was done from Italy but facts demonstrate that many machines used in the elections last year were vulnerable to sabotage, including sabotage from the internet. That alone is enough to require a thorough examination of how the machine count compares to the legitimate paper trails. In New Hampshire recently it was found that the machines were over counting one candidate and undercounting another.

You really think that Trump's seven point loss in New Hampshire can be overturned with fraudits?
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« Reply #6 on: June 20, 2021, 06:01:35 PM »

I do not know if it was done from Italy but facts demonstrate that many machines used in the elections last year were vulnerable to sabotage, including sabotage from the internet. That alone is enough to require a thorough examination of how the machine count compares to the legitimate paper trails. In New Hampshire recently it was found that the machines were over counting one candidate and undercounting another.

Citation needed.

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« Reply #7 on: June 20, 2021, 06:41:38 PM »

I do not know if it was done from Italy but facts demonstrate that many machines used in the elections last year were vulnerable to sabotage, including sabotage from the internet. That alone is enough to require a thorough examination of how the machine count compares to the legitimate paper trails. In New Hampshire recently it was found that the machines were over counting one candidate and undercounting another.

Citation needed.



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« Reply #8 on: June 20, 2021, 07:15:20 PM »
« Edited: June 20, 2021, 07:19:06 PM by Teflon Joe. »

It’s super weird the anti-Italian current of the Trump administration and MAGA crowd when Italian Americans are a sizable Republican leaning urban population across every city and are very much into Trump’s tough guy persona. Trump attacks Italian Americans like Cuomo so harshly by calling him a Fredo and there was the one attack where QAnon murdered an Italian mob boss but never attacked any other white figures from other ethnicities of organized crime. I don’t get it.

Trump is a wise guy corrupt  mob boss like John Gotti. The name Teflon Don was actually first give to John Gotti, not Trump. The Trump Organization is also a criminal enterprise filled with fraud like a money laundering mob business.

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« Reply #9 on: June 21, 2021, 07:41:03 PM »
« Edited: June 21, 2021, 07:44:56 PM by Storr »

‘Italygate’ election conspiracy theory was pushed by two firms led by woman who also falsely claimed $30 million mansion was hers


Her name is Michelle.  Her last name has been Golden, Ballarin, Roosevelt Edwards, maybe some others  either involving marriage or whatever she wanted to call herself at the time.

She married a rich guy in 1979 who she met while a student at WVU.  She was 24 he's was 59.  She ran as a Republican for Congress in 1986 in WV and lost by the usual amount.  Got divorced, married another older man and relocated to outer NOVA in the 2000s and ingrained herself with the upper crust there but also got involved in delusions of being a savior of Somalia.

It led to wacky series of claims and events chronicled here

Pirates and warlords aside, Michele Ballarin believes she can turn Somalia around

By 2009-10 everyone kind of figured out that she was a total wack job though there were new rubes to try to sucker in, but for most of the 2010s  she disappeared, until 2019 when as Michelle Roosevelt Edwards (the Roosevelt Edwards name was in honor of her grandfather), she bought the rather meager assets of a failed Icelandic airline, WOW, and made wild claims of how she was going to reinvent air travel.

A West Virginia Heiress-Turned-Arms Dealer Bought Wow Air and Will Restart Flights Next Month

So, that led to an Icelandic media group to go to NOVA and interview Michelle at her palatial estate

Waiting game or game over? The story of New WOW

Except it wasn't her estate, the people who own it don't know her and she had no right to be there (though she does have a relator license and the estate is for sale)

So, that leads us all back to original link of a fake woman and fake companies sending fake letters to a desperate dumbass like Mark Meadows leading to a referral to the DoJ which the DoJ called "pure insanity"

Or as Republicans like to call it--Tuesday.


Because of course wikileaks would be somehow involved with this:
"Ballarin’s work incensed the Ukrainian government at one point, according to a 2009 Wikileaks cable, after she became involved in negotiating the release of a ship full of Soviet-made tanks that was being held hostage. Ukraine’s foreign minister accused Ballarin in a cable to then-Secretary of State Hillary Clinton of “becom[ing] an intermediary of the sea corsairs” and of “incit[ing] the pirates to the groundless increase of the ransom sum.”"

from here, a non-paywall article (darn WaPo) https://talkingpointsmemo.com/feature/italygate-is-the-crown-jewel-of-big-lie-conspiracies-and-it-just-got-a-lot-wilder
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« Reply #10 on: June 22, 2021, 12:18:22 AM »

It’s super weird the anti-Italian current of the Trump administration and MAGA crowd when Italian Americans are a sizable Republican leaning urban population across every city and are very much into Trump’s tough guy persona. Trump attacks Italian Americans like Cuomo so harshly by calling him a Fredo and there was the one attack where QAnon murdered an Italian mob boss but never attacked any other white figures from other ethnicities of organized crime. I don’t get it.

You raise a very good point, especially given that Biden is Irish.  You would have thought they would have come up with an Irish conspiracy before the Italians, but eventually they'd get around to both, cause, ya know, old habits die hard.
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« Reply #11 on: June 22, 2021, 12:25:03 AM »

Mamma Mia, here they go again
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« Reply #12 on: June 22, 2021, 01:46:52 AM »

If the Italians had really been in charge of rigging this election, someone would have easily uncovered evidence by now. I might've believed the Swiss could pull this off, but definitely not some paizanos in track suits.
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« Reply #13 on: June 22, 2021, 05:55:05 AM »

Nice to see the ITALIAN FUTURE plans are going ahead smoothly Smiley
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« Reply #14 on: June 22, 2021, 10:39:20 AM »

Does this have anything to do with the conspiracy theory that "Italian satellites" altered the results of the election, or is that some other wacky trump belief?
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« Reply #15 on: June 22, 2021, 10:45:47 AM »

Does this have anything to do with the conspiracy theory that "Italian satellites" altered the results of the election, or is that some other wacky trump belief?

It's the same one.
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