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« on: July 31, 2019, 12:41:02 PM »

No poll.  Just read it and take it all in.

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« Reply #1 on: July 31, 2019, 12:41:55 PM »

Says a lot about society
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« Reply #2 on: July 31, 2019, 12:44:49 PM »

Enlightening.
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« Reply #3 on: July 31, 2019, 12:46:58 PM »

Darth Vader killed, like, whole planets, at once.
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« Reply #4 on: July 31, 2019, 12:50:14 PM »

I don't really know what she's talking about but a lot of people on leftist Twitter are trying to cancel her over this, although honestly Williamson has certainly done a lot more for people with HIV/AIDS than any other candidate on stage, even if her attempts were misguided.
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« Reply #5 on: July 31, 2019, 01:05:23 PM »

Okay
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« Reply #6 on: July 31, 2019, 01:08:29 PM »


At first glance I thought your signature was part of your reply. Tongue
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« Reply #7 on: July 31, 2019, 01:26:32 PM »

I need more context. The quote is bizarre. But it's not clear to me if she thinks you can rid yourself of AIDS or cancer with positive thoughts, or if she's just advocating maintaining a positive outlook in the face of hardship.
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« Reply #8 on: July 31, 2019, 01:53:35 PM »

Im not having this trash talking about Mary. She obviously talking about people with AIDS are angels and are not Dark Vader like the some people in this world like to believe. Get on her level. 
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« Reply #9 on: July 31, 2019, 02:14:41 PM »

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« Reply #10 on: July 31, 2019, 03:08:36 PM »

Im not having this trash talking about Mary. She obviously talking about people with AIDS are angels and are not Dark Vader like the some people in this world like to believe. Get on her level. 
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« Reply #11 on: July 31, 2019, 03:28:14 PM »

Genuinely insane.

Would still vote for her over Trump in a heartbeat, though!
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« Reply #12 on: July 31, 2019, 03:29:18 PM »

Genuinely insane.

Would still vote for her over Trump in a heartbeat, though!

Is it insane to call gays and other AIDS victims for angels?
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« Reply #13 on: July 31, 2019, 05:10:03 PM »

I honestly have no idea what this is trying to say.
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« Reply #14 on: July 31, 2019, 05:25:54 PM »

Genuinely insane.

Would still vote for her over Trump in a heartbeat, though!

Is it insane to call gays and other AIDS victims for angels?

That'd make sense, if that was what she said. But she called the virus itself an angel.
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« Reply #15 on: July 31, 2019, 06:10:59 PM »

Genuinely insane.

Would still vote for her over Trump in a heartbeat, though!

Is it insane to call gays and other AIDS victims for angels?

That'd make sense, if that was what she said. But she called the virus itself an angel.

No, she called the virus for Darth Vader, trying to attack angels.
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« Reply #16 on: July 31, 2019, 06:14:31 PM »

I honestly have no idea what this is trying to say.

Writing a letter to your diseases makes them go away apparently.

Dear AIDS,

Even though you are slowly and painfully eating away at my body, I still love you and know that there is good in you.  Now, please stop killing me.

Love, guy with AIDS
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« Reply #17 on: July 31, 2019, 06:37:05 PM »

Darth Vader killed, like, whole planets, at once.

Actually, it was Grand Moff Tarkin that ordered the destruction of the planet of Alderaan, to demonstrate the destructive firepower of the first Death Star.

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« Reply #18 on: July 31, 2019, 06:45:30 PM »

Just goes to show how many people just don't get her point of view, or the points of view of the people she speaks to. I'll enjoy how the conventional-headass Twitterverse tries and fails to shoot her down!
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« Reply #19 on: July 31, 2019, 07:57:18 PM »

I have no idea what it means.
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« Reply #20 on: July 31, 2019, 08:09:03 PM »

Could we have some temporal context here?

In the 1980s:

A. AIDS was completely untreatable and was a death sentence within two years, often quicker.

B. It was a disease with an INTENSE taboo attached, and people could lose their families, housing, support networks, churches, communities, etc. when diagnosed.

Marianne Williamson started up a charity which gave out millions of meals to AIDS patients and provided caring, compassionate care to people at a time when there was no effective medical solution available. She helped people, when faced with a guaranteed death sentence, ways to face their condition with compassion, dignity, and courage.

Marianne Williamson isn't going to tell non-exposed people to stop using PREP or to tell HIV patients to stop taking their antivirals to lower their viral load or whatever today. We are lucky enough that medication that can address this issue. People 30 years ago did NOT have that, and at a time of great moral panic and taboo about that disease, Marianne Williamson met people with compassion and open arms.
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« Reply #21 on: July 31, 2019, 09:22:24 PM »

Could we have some temporal context here?

In the 1980s:

A. AIDS was completely untreatable and was a death sentence within two years, often quicker.

B. It was a disease with an INTENSE taboo attached, and people could lose their families, housing, support networks, churches, communities, etc. when diagnosed.

Marianne Williamson started up a charity which gave out millions of meals to AIDS patients and provided caring, compassionate care to people at a time when there was no effective medical solution available. She helped people, when faced with a guaranteed death sentence, ways to face their condition with compassion, dignity, and courage.

Marianne Williamson isn't going to tell non-exposed people to stop using PREP or to tell HIV patients to stop taking their antivirals to lower their viral load or whatever today. We are lucky enough that medication that can address this issue. People 30 years ago did NOT have that, and at a time of great moral panic and taboo about that disease, Marianne Williamson met people with compassion and open arms.

A true modern day Mother Teresa.
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« Reply #22 on: July 31, 2019, 09:45:13 PM »

I honestly have no idea what this is trying to say.

Writing a letter to your diseases makes them go away apparently.

Dear AIDS,

Even though you are slowly and painfully eating away at my body, I still love you and know that there is good in you.  Now, please stop killing me.

Love, guy with AIDS

Is this a thing in the American school system?

There's an episode of the series Louie where Louis CK's daughter must write a letter to AIDS for school.
Louie jokes that she could write "Dear AIDS, please cut it out" but she scoffs at him for not taking the task seriously.
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« Reply #23 on: July 31, 2019, 10:11:08 PM »

Genuinely insane.

Would still vote for her over Trump in a heartbeat, though!

Is it insane to call gays and other AIDS victims for angels?

That'd make sense, if that was what she said. But she called the virus itself an angel.

No, she called the virus for Darth Vader, trying to attack angels.

The fact that you just typed that sentence reaffirms my initial comment that yes, this is insane.
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« Reply #24 on: July 31, 2019, 11:43:11 PM »

Using visualisations like this, creating metaphors for what one is experiencing in your body, can be helpful to dealing with health problems.  I know this from my own experience, though I've never had to deal with something potentially fatal like AIDS or Cancer.  But I certainly wouldn't dismiss it out of hand.
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