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« on: October 18, 2018, 10:19:44 AM »

https://www.politico.eu/article/bernie-sanders-2020-presidential-campaign-many-backers-arent-feeling-it/

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« Reply #1 on: October 18, 2018, 10:23:29 AM »

He's our Goldwater (that's a compliment).
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« Reply #2 on: October 18, 2018, 10:28:07 AM »

He's our Goldwater (that's a compliment).
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« Reply #3 on: October 18, 2018, 11:12:01 AM »

At last, the speculation of a Sanders run has finally gone downhill. That's wonderful until you realize that speculation of a Warren run is going up.  Squinting
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« Reply #4 on: October 18, 2018, 11:48:41 AM »

At last, the speculation of a Sanders run has finally gone downhill. That's wonderful until you realize that speculation of a Warren run is going up.  Squinting

If they nominate Steve Bullock, Democrats will lose once again. It would really say something about the USA, if the most left-wing party that is relevant nominate a candidate which is more right-wing than our most right-wing political party. I would really hope Democrats would lose again, just like they've did with Hillary. Some moderate republicans and independents might shift to Republicans yes, but some Democrats that want change, will back Trump or even more likely don't turn out. No doubt about that, and you'll lose the Rust Belt once again.
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« Reply #5 on: October 18, 2018, 12:31:03 PM »

Bullock isn't a right winger, he's very much an economic progressive. The difference is he will talk about bread and butter issues instead of divisive social issues like the urban NYC wing wants
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« Reply #6 on: October 18, 2018, 12:41:22 PM »

"A common frustration among former staffers is that they feel Sanders and his tight circle of aides have taken their support for granted and failed to keep their 2016 team cohesive, which would have been an inherent advantage in a second run."

Very telling about Sanders. He is stuck up and elitist, not a good look.
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« Reply #7 on: October 18, 2018, 12:44:41 PM »

At last, the speculation of a Sanders run has finally gone downhill. That's wonderful until you realize that speculation of a Warren run is going up.  Squinting

If they nominate Steve Bullock, Democrats will lose once again. It would really say something about the USA, if the most left-wing party that is relevant nominate a candidate which is more right-wing than our most right-wing political party. I would really hope Democrats would lose again, just like they've did with Hillary. Some moderate republicans and independents might shift to Republicans yes, but some Democrats that want change, will back Trump or even more likely don't turn out. No doubt about that, and you'll lose the Rust Belt once again.

You seem to think Bullock is a moderate. Clearly, you have got the wrong impression.
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« Reply #8 on: October 18, 2018, 01:19:39 PM »

Of course Sanders's staff is looking for other candidates to support because of course Sanders is not going to run again.
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He's gone back to being an Independent in the Senate, refusing the Democratic nomination in this year's Senate election. He had promised, didn't he, in 2016, that he was going to be a Democrat from now on? He's reneged on that promise. But he's going to ask the Democrats to nominate him in 2020? Independent -> Democrat -> Independent -> Democrat. I think not.
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« Reply #9 on: October 18, 2018, 02:10:39 PM »

Of course Sanders's staff is looking for other candidates to support because of course Sanders is not going to run again.
Age.
He's gone back to being an Independent in the Senate, refusing the Democratic nomination in this year's Senate election. He had promised, didn't he, in 2016, that he was going to be a Democrat from now on? He's reneged on that promise. But he's going to ask the Democrats to nominate him in 2020? Independent -> Democrat -> Independent -> Democrat. I think not.

Precisely. He seems spry but age is a huge deal at his, well, age. I think he will do more good staying in the Senate than trying to run again.
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« Reply #10 on: October 18, 2018, 02:59:29 PM »

Incredibly misleading. Of course some of his staffers are going to leave his campaign. That's nothing abnormal. Politico just trying to bring him down.
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« Reply #11 on: October 19, 2018, 12:57:59 PM »

Bullock isn't a right winger, he's very much an economic progressive. The difference is he will talk about bread and butter issues instead of divisive social issues like the urban NYC wing wants

Yes, divisive urban NYC issues like... unemployment, rent prices, infrastructure issues, gentrification, police brutality, and income inequality.

Some of you Dems who pull the whole "identity politics" BS are worse than the Republicans who do it.
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« Reply #12 on: October 19, 2018, 04:56:25 PM »

Incredibly misleading. Of course some of his staffers are going to leave his campaign. That's nothing abnormal. Politico just trying to bring him down.

Exactly.
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« Reply #13 on: October 19, 2018, 04:58:30 PM »

Bullock isn't a right winger, he's very much an economic progressive. The difference is he will talk about bread and butter issues instead of divisive social issues like the urban NYC wing wants

Yes, divisive urban NYC issues like... unemployment, rent prices, infrastructure issues, gentrification, police brutality, and income inequality.

Some of you Dems who pull the whole "identity politics" BS are worse than the Republicans who do it.
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« Reply #14 on: October 19, 2018, 07:07:08 PM »

Bullock isn't a right winger, he's very much an economic progressive. The difference is he will talk about bread and butter issues instead of divisive social issues like the urban NYC wing wants

Yes, divisive urban NYC issues like... unemployment, rent prices, infrastructure issues, gentrification, police brutality, and income inequality.

Some of you Dems who pull the whole "identity politics" BS are worse than the Republicans who do it.
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« Reply #15 on: October 19, 2018, 07:24:42 PM »

Bernie will be an old retread if he runs, he will not look good standing next to a younger crop of candidates in the debate. And his message never changes so people will be hearing exactly what they heard in 2016 while all the other candidates are preaching new stuff.
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« Reply #16 on: October 19, 2018, 07:28:29 PM »

Yeah, Bullock will clearly not talk about social issues at all if he wins the nomination. Roll Eyes
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« Reply #17 on: October 19, 2018, 07:32:26 PM »

Bernie will be an old retread if he runs, he will not look good standing next to a younger crop of candidates in the debate. And his message never changes so people will be hearing exactly what they heard in 2016 while all the other candidates are preaching new stuff.

Lol yes slimy Kamala Harris, Deval Patrick, and Cory Booker will come off so authentic repeating all of Bernie's talking points on the debate stage because muh age.
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« Reply #18 on: October 20, 2018, 05:23:31 AM »

Bullock isn't a right winger, he's very much an economic progressive. The difference is he will talk about bread and butter issues instead of divisive social issues like the urban NYC wing wants

Yes, divisive urban NYC issues like... unemployment, rent prices, infrastructure issues, gentrification, police brutality, and income inequality.

Some of you Dems who pull the whole "identity politics" BS are worse than the Republicans who do it.

So many lefties on this forum are obsessed with the idea of throwing their base under the bus and pandering to angry rural racist white men who despise the Democratic Party and everything it stands for.
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« Reply #19 on: October 20, 2018, 05:30:07 AM »

Sanders had his moment, he's clearly too old now and isn't gonna run anyway.
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« Reply #20 on: October 20, 2018, 11:16:01 AM »

Bullock isn't a right winger, he's very much an economic progressive. The difference is he will talk about bread and butter issues instead of divisive social issues like the urban NYC wing wants

You forgot to mention San Francisco values.
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« Reply #21 on: October 20, 2018, 01:53:07 PM »

Bullock isn't a right winger, he's very much an economic progressive. The difference is he will talk about bread and butter issues instead of divisive social issues like the urban NYC wing wants

Yes, divisive urban NYC issues like... unemployment, rent prices, infrastructure issues, gentrification, police brutality, and income inequality.

Some of you Dems who pull the whole "identity politics" BS are worse than the Republicans who do it.

Exactly. Thank you.

Gay/black/Hispanic/women's rights are not "identity politics". This are real issues that affect the economic and social lives of millions of Americans and their families.

For example, if you can be fired in 30/50 states simply for being LGBT, that's a civil rights AND economic issue. If you could be denied housing for being LGBT that's a civil rights AND economic issue. If you are paid less than men for the same job because you're a woman that's a civil rights AND economic issue.

Dismissing it as a "divisive issue" is wrong and abhorrent.
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« Reply #22 on: October 20, 2018, 04:25:12 PM »

But... but... I thought Sanders was our version of Reagan?
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« Reply #23 on: October 20, 2018, 04:32:16 PM »

He will be 80, just as old as Biden and Trump. Time for new blood
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« Reply #24 on: October 20, 2018, 06:51:09 PM »

But... but... I thought Sanders was our version of Reagan?

Bernie Sanders is the trendy version of Ron Paul.
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