The Hill: Clinton allies “could see themselves” joining Team Warren

[Fuzzy Bear]

2020 will be a re-do.  A democratic socialist non-Democrat vs. a former liberal Republican female elitist with a major phony streak.

It's not just Hillary Clinton I can't stand.  It's that slimy John Podesta.  It's that whiny Jen Palmieri.  It's that snot-nosed Robby Mook.  It's the whole slew of Clintonistas that represent the Democratic Party's morphing into the party of elitist latte faux liberalism where they will drop everything for someone's right to an abortion or their right to trans (regardless of age), but will do nothing to significantly reverse the flow of more and more money to fewer and fewer people.  The avant garde fringe social issues are front and center with these folks, while the needs of working families get lip service.

No, thank you.  That's a faux solution to the problems of working folks.

While I have mixed feelings about Bernie Sanders, I'd love for him to crush Warren at this point, if THIS is the cast of characters she's going to run with.

[Fuzzy Bear]

2020 will be a re-do.  A democratic socialist non-Democrat vs. a former liberal Republican female elitist with a major phony streak.

It's not just Hillary Clinton I can't stand.  It's that slimy John Podesta.  It's that whiny Jen Palmieri.  It's that snot-nosed Robby Mook.  It's the whole slew of Clintonistas that represent the Democratic Party's morphing into the party of elitist latte faux liberalism where they will drop everything for someone's right to an abortion or their right to trans (regardless of age), but will do nothing to significantly reverse the flow of more and more money to fewer and fewer people.  The avant garde fringe social issues are front and center with these folks, while the needs of working families get lip service.

No, thank you.  That's a faux solution to the problems of working folks.

While I have mixed feelings about Bernie Sanders, I'd love for him to crush Warren at this point, if THIS is the cast of characters she's going to run with.

Warren has her own professional, somewhat insular, staff and inner circle. These are drowning rats looking for another ship. Look at the language used to describe who these people are.

Aside from the one anonymous "Clinton Aide" these are the people that even the Clintons kept at arms' length. Adam Pachinko Machine famously longs for attention that the Clintons never give him. And what, half the quotes in this article are him and the spokesman for his PAC? Grifters and cultists are going to be grifters and cultists, but that tells you more about them than the people they cling to.

I understand disliking Warren's play if you're a cultural conservative, but you have to understand that there's an inside and an outside game for populists in the Democratic party. Warren, because she can play the Northeast Liberal Professor role extraordinarily well, has gotten a ton of access to the elements of the national party that are frightened by Bernie. Heck, she basically extracted wholesale carte blanche on banking policy and staffing decisions from Clinton by the end of the primaries. If playing a latte liberal gets you inside the castle gates...

I believe she's a latte liberal at heart.  A real working class advocate would never have felt the need to push that phony Pocahontas crap.

[Fuzzy Bear]

2020 will be a re-do.  A democratic socialist non-Democrat vs. a former liberal Republican female elitist with a major phony streak.

It's not just Hillary Clinton I can't stand.  It's that slimy John Podesta.  It's that whiny Jen Palmieri.  It's that snot-nosed Robby Mook.  It's the whole slew of Clintonistas that represent the Democratic Party's morphing into the party of elitist latte faux liberalism where they will drop everything for someone's right to an abortion or their right to trans (regardless of age), but will do nothing to significantly reverse the flow of more and more money to fewer and fewer people.  The avant garde fringe social issues are front and center with these folks, while the needs of working families get lip service.

No, thank you.  That's a faux solution to the problems of working folks.

While I have mixed feelings about Bernie Sanders, I'd love for him to crush Warren at this point, if THIS is the cast of characters she's going to run with.

Warren has her own professional, somewhat insular, staff and inner circle. These are drowning rats looking for another ship. Look at the language used to describe who these people are.

Aside from the one anonymous "Clinton Aide" these are the people that even the Clintons kept at arms' length. Adam Pachinko Machine famously longs for attention that the Clintons never give him. And what, half the quotes in this article are him and the spokesman for his PAC? Grifters and cultists are going to be grifters and cultists, but that tells you more about them than the people they cling to.

I understand disliking Warren's play if you're a cultural conservative, but you have to understand that there's an inside and an outside game for populists in the Democratic party. Warren, because she can play the Northeast Liberal Professor role extraordinarily well, has gotten a ton of access to the elements of the national party that are frightened by Bernie. Heck, she basically extracted wholesale carte blanche on banking policy and staffing decisions from Clinton by the end of the primaries. If playing a latte liberal gets you inside the castle gates...

I believe she's a latte liberal at heart.  A real working class advocate would never have felt the need to push that phony Pocahontas crap.

So you honestly think she's fighting like hell to prevent Wall Street deregulation just for the sake of appearing progressive and if she were to get elected, she'd govern as a corporate Democrat? I realize you despite the culturally liberal aspects of the Democratic Party, but you should at least appreciate the work she's done as a professor and as senator fighting for consumer protections. I also think you're jumping the gun on Pocahontas a bit. Isn't it possible she honestly could have thought she had Indian heritage and turned out she didn't? It's one thing to distrust the Clintons, who actually over 20-30 years have a repeated track record of dishonesty that stem far beyond the email scandal, but thinking Elizabeth Warren is a phony just based on that alone is the opposite of giving someone the benefit of the doubt.

I must confess I go back and forth on her.

I think about the ancestry.com commercial about the guy who was always told he was German, only to find out he was not German at all.  I certainly believe that can happen.  Warren BENEFITTED from the claim that she was Native American, however, and in a tangible way.  Now it's true that all of that may be an honest mistake; she is originally from Oklahoma, and it's hardly impossible.  But she handled the situation like a poser, as far as I'm concerned.  And her explanation is, in many ways, too cute by half.

In truth, I was just beginning to warm up a bit to her, when I read about the Clintonistas signing up in the Warren Brigade.  The Clintonistas have a long track record of shaping the Democratic Party into something other than a working class party (you know, THAT Democratic Party, the one that actually helped working people once upon a time).  I'm not going to judge Warren entirely by the company she keeps, but that's part of it, and this wasn't a promising start.