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« on: April 07, 2020, 01:24:13 PM »

Both senate races had vulnerable Republican incumebents, Democrats think they've got a strong challenger. Polling pretty much always showed Feingold with a decent edge over Johnson, same way pretty much all polling shows Kelly beating McSally. In the end, Feingold not only lost, but he significantly underperformed Clinton. Are Democrats being too bullish about this AZ senate race in 2020, or is ther soemthing that makes this significantly different?
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« Reply #1 on: April 07, 2020, 01:39:50 PM »

At one point this was the 2016 senate forecasts early on, way too much credit was givden to the quality of the canidates, but most people on this forums though it would be something like this early on:



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« Reply #2 on: April 07, 2020, 02:19:37 PM »

It's obviously not impossible (hence 'Lean D' rather than 'Safe D') but McSally is a weaker incumbent, Kelly is a stronger challenges, and this is in a state with better demographics for Democrats and is trending their way rapidly, plus Trump and his effects are much more of a known quantity this time around than four years ago.

In 2016, 243 people thought Feingold would win, whereasonly 14 people thought Johnson would win, and half of those were probably "joke" votes for Johnson winning or an unrealistic R landslide. A good 45 people rated it as safe, and the majority of people put lean. Seems to me that people were pretty confident about this flip. For the majority of the election cycle, fivethirtyeight had Feingold at a 90% chnace of winning.
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« Reply #3 on: April 07, 2020, 06:33:22 PM »

Due to McCain being on ballot in 2016 and Speaker Ryan and Giv Walker governing in WI in 2016, allowed Johnson to upset Feingold

What does McCain have to do with Feingold losing?
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