Latinos (Nationwide, Latino Decisions): Biden +32 and +36
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wbrocks67
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« on: April 24, 2020, 09:34:05 AM »

Initial ballot:
49% Biden
17% Trump
35% undecided

Pushed:
59% Biden
23% Trump
18% still undecided

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/joe-biden-poll-latino-voters/

For context, Dems won Latinos by 40% in 2018 midterms (69-29) and Hillary won Latinos by 38% in 2016 (66-28)

So Biden is already close to those #s with some still undecided.
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« Reply #1 on: April 24, 2020, 11:31:02 AM »

Looks pretty good so far.
Could be better.
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« Reply #2 on: April 24, 2020, 11:33:12 AM »

Initial ballot:
49% Biden
17% Trump
35% undecided

Pushed:
59% Biden
23% Trump
18% still undecided

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/joe-biden-poll-latino-voters/

For context, Dems won Latinos by 40% in 2018 midterms (69-29) and Hillary won Latinos by 38% in 2016 (66-28)

So Biden is already close to those #s with some still undecided.

Hillary lost so he should hope to do better.
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« Reply #3 on: April 24, 2020, 12:44:02 PM »

If they break heavy-ish for Trump, Biden gets Hillary numbers. If they break down the middle, Biden gets 2018 numbers.
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« Reply #4 on: April 24, 2020, 01:51:22 PM »

I still find it insane that Trump can even break 10% with latin americans.
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« Reply #5 on: April 24, 2020, 05:58:45 PM »

I still find it insane that Trump can even break 10% with latin americans.

They are not a monolith by any means.
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« Reply #6 on: April 24, 2020, 06:00:14 PM »

I still find it insane that Trump can even break 10% with latin americans.

You've never met any Cuban-Americans.
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« Reply #7 on: April 24, 2020, 06:05:44 PM »

I still find it insane that Trump can even break 10% with latin americans.

Besides the aforementioned Cubans (and he probably does pretty well with Venezuelan-Americans as well), I'd expect his numbers among Tejanos (old-school Texas Hispanics whose ancestry in the US goes back 100 years or more) are pretty decent. They're the reason why Texas Hispanic polls always end up like 60-40 D-R rather than the overwhelmingly D numbers you get in many other places: there's a very integrated older Hispanic community in Texas in particular who tend to have a pretty stable and senior position in parts of southern Texas and some degree of disdain/contempt for more recent Hispanic immigrants.

But yeah, Trump hitting 25-30% among Hispanics is not at all unusual or outlandish. If he does any better than that range, there's a real problem. And Dems should hope it's closer to 25% rather than 30%.
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« Reply #8 on: April 24, 2020, 08:06:32 PM »

I still find it insane that Trump can even break 10% with latin americans.

Cuban-Americans in Florida, still rather right-leaning.
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« Reply #9 on: April 24, 2020, 09:45:12 PM »

This firm always overestimates Democrats. In 2016 they had close to 80% going for Clinton. Most other polls show a lot of undecideds but Trump getting 25-30% while Biden gets 55-60%
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« Reply #10 on: April 24, 2020, 11:52:31 PM »

I still find it insane that Trump can even break 10% with latin americans.

I'd expect his numbers among Tejanos (old-school Texas Hispanics whose ancestry in the US goes back 100 years or more) are pretty decent. They're the reason why Texas Hispanic polls always end up like 60-40 D-R rather than the overwhelmingly D numbers you get in many other places: there's a very integrated older Hispanic community in Texas in particular who tend to have a pretty stable and senior position in parts of southern Texas and some degree of disdain/contempt for more recent Hispanic immigrants.

Not only that they're like 30-50% Evangelical Protestant
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« Reply #11 on: April 25, 2020, 09:44:57 AM »

Initial ballot:
49% Biden
17% Trump
35% undecided

Pushed:
59% Biden
23% Trump
18% still undecided

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/joe-biden-poll-latino-voters/

For context, Dems won Latinos by 40% in 2018 midterms (69-29) and Hillary won Latinos by 38% in 2016 (66-28)

So Biden is already close to those #s with some still undecided.


Bolded mine.

You are comparing Apples and Oranges. Latino Decisions conducts their polling differently from how exit polls sample the Latino electorate, and as a result has had a strong Democratic house effect.

In 2016, Latino Decisions found that Latinos voted 79% for Clinton, and 18% for Trump.
https://latinodecisions.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/06/National_and_State_by_State_Toplines.pdf

In 2018, Latino Decisions found that 74% of Latinos voted for the House Democratic Candidate, and 24% voted for the Hosue GOP candidate.
https://latinodecisions.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/03/Latino_Xtab_Demographics.pdf

This is a disastrous poll for Biden if this is even close to being accurate.
This definitely doesn't look good, you are right.
When does Latino decisions release its next poll?
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« Reply #12 on: April 25, 2020, 10:35:08 AM »

The problems with a lot of these polls is that the pollsters don't push the undecideds. You can't tell me even after pushing in this one, that nearly 20% is still undecided or doesn't at least lean.
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