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« Reply #25 on: September 21, 2012, 11:44:48 PM »

This has to do with fatness rather than poverty or whatever. A lack of personal responsibility sounds about right. It's not as if fast food is cheaper than buying a bunch of kale at any grocery store.
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« Reply #26 on: September 21, 2012, 11:56:34 PM »

This has to do with fatness rather than poverty or whatever. A lack of personal responsibility sounds about right. It's not as if fast food is cheaper than buying a bunch of kale at any grocery store.

Generally fast food is cheaper-especially so when taken on a caloric level.  There is also a problem with access to healthier foods in poor neighborhoods. The questions is are you going to take two buses to the good store- or pick up whatever the local price gouging store has to offer or fast food place has on their dollar menus.
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« Reply #27 on: September 22, 2012, 01:01:34 AM »

That's right BigSkyBob, victims of capitalism, and as for you, TJ, those aren't 'individual decisions', those are behaviors created by society.

Cubans have some of the highest standards of living in Latin America.  There's a reason for that.

1) Cuba had about the highest standard of living in Latin America before Castro;
2) The Soviet Union bombed the island with foreign aid;
3) Argentina did worse; and
4) A large number of Cubans fled to the United States resulting in the remaining population having affluent relatives abroad sending remittances, etc.


1) It was a dictatorship, fascism also works quite well in terms of improving standard of living.  I'm certainly no fascist, but that's a fact.  And fascism =/= capitalism, it's "third way."
2) The Soviet Union has been gone for over 20 years.  The standard of living is still far higher.  It's been standing on its own for a generation, and given that, even as a horrible system is clearly superior to what the poor, destitute capitalist Latin American countries have.
3) What do you mean by "Argentina did worse?"
4) I'm going to have to ask you for legitimate sources (as in, news, not sites with an agenda) on how Cuban-Americans impact the standards of living in modern Cuba - I severely highly doubt Cuban-Americans are the reasons it maintains a much higher standard of living.

http://www.cubastandard.com/2010/12/27/remittances-skyrocket-after-u-s-allows-peso-transfers/

Article notes that the estimate is that about half of Cubans receive remittances, and, about a billion/yr is from America alone.
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« Reply #28 on: September 22, 2012, 12:00:02 PM »

This has to do with fatness rather than poverty or whatever. A lack of personal responsibility sounds about right. It's not as if fast food is cheaper than buying a bunch of kale at any grocery store.

There is a lack of personal responsibility because personal responsibility is a fiction.
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« Reply #29 on: September 22, 2012, 11:16:33 PM »

It's not that poor whites are decreasing in life expectancy, it's that less educated whites are decreasing in life expectancy.  A large part of this is explained by less education translating into a greater disadvantage to economic and social opportunity than it once did, especially in comparison to the higher proportion of high school and college graduates. 
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