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« on: October 03, 2018, 08:57:44 PM »

Mostly great news. This keeps Dems one more seat away from a majority, which they certainly don't deserve with their despicable handling of the Kavanaugh situation. However, I say only 'mostly' great because this means that there will be even less ideological diversity among the Democratic senators, as a leading red-state Democrat is knocked off.

Still, on the whole, good news.

With all due respect, this kind of criticism regarding the courts is meaningless coming from Republicans. You guys have made it abundantly clear that you do not accept that Democrats have every right to pick judges when in power, just like Republicans do, and that apparently the federal judiciary is the sole property of the Republican Party, so why should Democrats do anything but impede your party's attempts to stack it?

This is what happens when you stand by as your party engages in scumbag partisan power plays. You ruin the idea of bipartisanship and make everything a "win-at-all-costs" battle. And you turn people like me, who just wanted each party to accept that if their opponents control the White House, they get to pick federal judges within reason, into jaded political activists who now want their party to pack the courts in a long-shot effort to teach the opposition that the world doesn't revolve around them.

I actually wholly agree with you on this issue. The current (and relatively newfound) partisan rancor surrounding Supreme Court nominations is frankly disgusting, and BOTH sides  of the senate refuse to act as a mature, unified body determined to assess the qualifications of nominees.

That being said, this case with Kavanaugh is particularly sinister, as it not only involves one side trying to delay his confirmation but also involves, quite literally, the ruining of his life and that of his family with no substantiated evidence.

Good lord....You guys have all 3 branches of government and control of 34 states and you still keep whining.
No kidding. How dare we argue it's not accpetable to confirm a rapist to the court?


Obviously a rapist shouldn't be confirmed to the court. The problem is that people on the left, including you, take that as a given fact, when it is, in fact, not.

Lmao stop acting like you'd ever accept the notion that he's a rapist or attempted to rape Ford. Even with the most convincing evidence you'd still deny deny deny.

If it were a Democrat nominating a Democrat to the Court and he was facing these allegations, you'd probably suddenly believe them at face value.
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« Reply #1 on: October 03, 2018, 09:01:22 PM »
« Edited: October 03, 2018, 09:14:47 PM by cookiedamage »

But Atlas told me Cramer was finished because of his "Akin comments." LOL.

This one's over, as is the battle for control of the Senate. The Democratic Party's utter incompetence and supreme ability to grasp defeat from the jaws of victory never ceases to amaze me. They just HAD to give the GOP a rallying cry with their stupid Kavanaugh posturing, didn't they?

Is this a troll or...? Because it seems you're implying that standing up to a partisan, vicious accused rapist is somehow incompetent and somehow ruined the re-election of a woman who was already 10 points behind. Do you like Kavanaugh or something?

You seem to be posting in multiple threads on how Democrats ruined their chances at the Senate because of this and how stupid they are and how foolish they are due to their actions with Kavanaugh...

A.) The Senate was always an uphill battle. If you blab on about the Dems snatching defeat from the jaws of victory you imply they were well positioned for a Senate retake. Which has never been likely according to most pundits and experts.

B.) Heitkamp was always vulnerable.

C.) The Cramer +10 poll was before the hearings

C.2) Manchin is still up, McCaskill is still in a tied race. Donnelly is still up. Nelson is still slightly favored. If Senate Dems are so stupid for opposing an accused rapist, and if they so snatched defeat from the jaws of victory (even though the senate was never going to be retaken in all likelihood, so revisionism on your part), then why aren't all the red state dems multiple points behind? Why is Blackburn still under 50? Why is Nelson not 2 points behind again?

D.) You're being revisionist and your gloating is hilarious considering how flimsy your assertions are.

E.) Pick a better hill to die on
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« Reply #2 on: October 03, 2018, 09:19:54 PM »

But Atlas told me Cramer was finished because of his "Akin comments." LOL.

This one's over, as is the battle for control of the Senate. The Democratic Party's utter incompetence and supreme ability to grasp defeat from the jaws of victory never ceases to amaze me. They just HAD to give the GOP a rallying cry with their stupid Kavanaugh posturing, didn't they?

Is this a troll or...? Because it seems you're implying that standing up to a partisan, vicious accused rapist is somehow incompetent and somehow ruined the re-election of a woman who was already 10 points behind. Do you like Kavanaugh or something?

It might be the right thing to do morally (not that it really matters since he's going to be confirmed regardless), but it is objectively the wrong thing to do politically if your goal is to win in deeply Republican states.

And she wasn't already down 10. The polls before Kavanaugh had her down 4-5.

Anyway, there's already a sexually assaulting pussygrabber in the White House. You get the government you deserve. It's what the American people wanted and voted for after all. I don't see how a potential sex criminal being on the SCOTUS would further disgrace our country any more than it already is disgraced.

Because the most Trump can do damage to this country is capped at 8 years. Kavanaugh being empowered by a Conservative court (with Clarence Thomas) can be horrific and can last for decades, with any effects lasting even longer. What if RBG dies and Trump appoints a far-right wing candidate? What then? Should we just roll over and allow them to ascend to the supreme court to protect a bunch of red-state dems, even if it means putting people into a lifetime position where they can repeal numerous laws protecting women, LGBTQ, and minorities?
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« Reply #3 on: October 03, 2018, 09:45:21 PM »

Mostly great news. This keeps Dems one more seat away from a majority, which they certainly don't deserve with their despicable handling of the Kavanaugh situation. However, I say only 'mostly' great because this means that there will be even less ideological diversity among the Democratic senators, as a leading red-state Democrat is knocked off.

Still, on the whole, good news.

With all due respect, this kind of criticism regarding the courts is meaningless coming from Republicans. You guys have made it abundantly clear that you do not accept that Democrats have every right to pick judges when in power, just like Republicans do, and that apparently the federal judiciary is the sole property of the Republican Party, so why should Democrats do anything but impede your party's attempts to stack it?

This is what happens when you stand by as your party engages in scumbag partisan power plays. You ruin the idea of bipartisanship and make everything a "win-at-all-costs" battle. And you turn people like me, who just wanted each party to accept that if their opponents control the White House, they get to pick federal judges within reason, into jaded political activists who now want their party to pack the courts in a long-shot effort to teach the opposition that the world doesn't revolve around them.

I actually wholly agree with you on this issue. The current (and relatively newfound) partisan rancor surrounding Supreme Court nominations is frankly disgusting, and BOTH sides  of the senate refuse to act as a mature, unified body determined to assess the qualifications of nominees.

That being said, this case with Kavanaugh is particularly sinister, as it not only involves one side trying to delay his confirmation but also involves, quite literally, the ruining of his life and that of his family with no substantiated evidence.

Good lord....You guys have all 3 branches of government and control of 34 states and you still keep whining.
No kidding. How dare we argue it's not accpetable to confirm a rapist to the court?


Obviously a rapist shouldn't be confirmed to the court. The problem is that people on the left, including you, take that as a given fact, when it is, in fact, not.

Lmao stop acting like you'd ever accept the notion that he's a rapist or attempted to rape Ford. Even with the most convincing evidence you'd still deny deny deny.

If it were a Democrat nominating a Democrat to the Court and he was facing these allegations, you'd probably suddenly believe them at face value.

How about we see some of that convincing evidence first, and then we'll see where I stand? Smile

I already know where you'll stand since I've known many people like you Smiley, considering you have an ugly ass signature of him, I know you will always see a belligerent drunken right-winger as a victim no matter what.
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« Reply #4 on: October 03, 2018, 10:15:57 PM »

I really hate this country sometimes.

inb4 dont like it then move to communism

"Democracy is the theory that the common people know what they want, and deserve to get it good and hard."


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Most of America hates themselves nowadays anyway. Or at the very least, other people.

The problem with American democracy is the voters
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