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« on: July 25, 2020, 10:12:45 PM »
« edited: July 26, 2020, 04:28:05 PM by NewYorkExpress »

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-poland-eu/poland-to-quit-treaty-on-violence-against-women-minister-says-idUSKCN24Q0DG

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Poland will take steps next week to withdraw from a European treaty on violence against women, which the right-wing cabinet says violates parents’ rights by requiring schools to teach children about gender, the justice minister said on Saturday.

Zbigniew Ziobro told a news conference his ministry would submit a request to the labour and families ministry on Monday to begin the process of withdrawing from the treaty, known as the Istanbul Convention.

“It contains elements of an ideological nature, which we consider harmful,” Ziobro said.
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« Reply #1 on: July 25, 2020, 10:43:25 PM »

Very sad move. The country seems to be constantly moving backward under their current leadership.
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« Reply #2 on: July 26, 2020, 08:55:52 AM »

More luvverly Orbanism.
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« Reply #3 on: July 26, 2020, 12:06:24 PM »

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“It contains elements of an ideological nature, which we consider harmful,” Ziobro said.

Oh yes, it's their constant line. Somehow protecting the women from abuse is going to turn your kids gay.

I don't really know what to say anymore.
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« Reply #4 on: August 07, 2020, 10:04:10 AM »

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« Reply #5 on: August 07, 2020, 12:29:08 PM »

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« Reply #6 on: August 08, 2020, 04:52:46 PM »

Any treaty signed in Istanbul can’t be that liberal, can it?
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« Reply #7 on: August 08, 2020, 05:49:08 PM »

Any treaty signed in Istanbul can’t be that liberal, can it?

It's pretty sad to see people thinking of such a no-brainer like preventing violence against women in terms of liberal/conservative divide.
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« Reply #8 on: August 09, 2020, 10:50:25 AM »

Any treaty signed in Istanbul can’t be that liberal, can it?

It's pretty sad to see people thinking of such a no-brainer like preventing violence against women in terms of liberal/conservative divide.

“Educating children about gender” is a very liberal term.
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« Reply #9 on: August 09, 2020, 11:20:42 AM »
« Edited: August 09, 2020, 11:29:30 AM by parochial boy »

Wait, are we now living in a world where even recognising that gender exists makes you a politically correct, SJW, super woke liberal?
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« Reply #10 on: August 10, 2020, 06:30:56 AM »

I have never understood what does "teaching children about gender" even mean.
What?
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« Reply #11 on: August 10, 2020, 06:47:02 AM »

Good. Istanbul Convention is too liberal/feminist
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« Reply #12 on: August 10, 2020, 07:46:39 AM »

Good. Istanbul Convention is too liberal/feminist

I understand "too liberal" (I disagree with that, but I see how someone could come to that conclusion), but what does "too feminist" even mean? It's about preventing violence against women, of course it's feminist.
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« Reply #13 on: August 10, 2020, 09:05:20 AM »

Good. Istanbul Convention is too liberal/feminist

I understand "too liberal" (I disagree with that, but I see how someone could come to that conclusion), but what does "too feminist" even mean? It's about preventing violence against women, of course it's feminist.

It's a very broad document, which includes a lot of feminist talking points, like "fighting against stereotypical gender roles", for example.
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« Reply #14 on: August 10, 2020, 09:34:09 AM »

So what? Unless you don't think "stereotypical gender roles" are a thing (or, indeed, that they are good)
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« Reply #15 on: August 10, 2020, 03:18:36 PM »

So what? Unless you don't think "stereotypical gender roles" are a thing (or, indeed, that they are good)

I think that it is complicated question (do they exist? are they good?). Vows to destroy "stereotypical gender roles" for me seems as a feminist slogan.
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« Reply #16 on: August 11, 2020, 12:08:25 PM »

So what? Unless you don't think "stereotypical gender roles" are a thing (or, indeed, that they are good)

I think that it is complicated question (do they exist? are they good?). Vows to destroy "stereotypical gender roles" for me seems as a feminist slogan.

So was 'Votes for Women'.
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