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Filuwaúrdjan
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« on: July 20, 2008, 09:39:04 PM »

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Four senior Anglican bishops have split away from the Church of England to form a rival organisation.

The new "Church of ye olde England" aims to "break the mould of religious organisation", according to co-founder and leader Bishop Nazir-Ali.

Nazir-Ali cited differences over the consecration of female bishops and gay marriage, saying he hoped the Church of ye olde England would have a wider appeal than the old Anglican church, attracting conservative Catholics and evangelicals as well as Anglicans.

The experiment is widely expected to fail, allowing atheists to portray the religious as disunited egotists for ten years, after which any attempt by the Anglican church to claim the centre ground of UK religious life will be spun as a vindication of the splitters' move.

Speculation is mounting that the new group will merge with the Mormons and produce an annual newsletter just before Easter showing themselves kneeling at various UK locations with the claim they are "praying hard all year round".
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« Reply #1 on: July 20, 2008, 10:15:16 PM »

I don't mean to sound like a bigot, but I have always had serious questions about the Church of England's true legitimacy as a group... more so than sects that are far less close to Catholicism in their worship practices.

I'm not surprised this is happening.  The Church of England wants all the trappings of the highly organized sect without actually organizing it, or making enforceable decisions.  This was bound to happen.
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« Reply #2 on: July 20, 2008, 10:18:36 PM »

P.S.  Most of this article sounds like a joke.  Attract people from all major Christian groups?   newsletter with Mormons?
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« Reply #3 on: July 20, 2008, 10:22:31 PM »

P.S.  Most of this article sounds like a joke.

Um, Chris...Smiley
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« Reply #4 on: July 20, 2008, 10:53:39 PM »


Yeah, alright... now I just feel like a jackass.
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« Reply #5 on: July 20, 2008, 11:06:59 PM »

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     ^After reading that, I figured that it was probably fake.
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« Reply #6 on: July 21, 2008, 11:03:04 AM »

In might be a joke, since Nazi-Ali appointed a woman as his Archdeacon (a very senior post within the diocese).
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« Reply #7 on: July 21, 2008, 12:10:37 PM »

The bit about 'ye olde england' was a red flag.
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« Reply #8 on: July 21, 2008, 12:49:49 PM »


The Provisional BBC wouldn't lie to us! Angry
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« Reply #9 on: July 21, 2008, 12:55:45 PM »

The Provisional BBC wouldn't lie to us! Angry

Quite right. I get all of my news from the Provisional BBC.

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     ^After reading that, I figured that it was probably fake.

No, there is actually a Bishop called Nazir-Ali (full name: Michael Nazi-Ali). Bishop of Rochester. And a prick if thee ask me.
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« Reply #10 on: July 21, 2008, 01:16:16 PM »

The Provisional BBC wouldn't lie to us! Angry

Quite right. I get all of my news from the Provisional BBC.

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     ^After reading that, I figured that it was probably fake.

No, there is actually a Bishop called Nazir-Ali (full name: Michael Nazi-Ali). Bishop of Rochester. And a prick if thee ask me.

So, wait, this is for real then?
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« Reply #11 on: July 21, 2008, 01:25:21 PM »

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     ^After reading that, I figured that it was probably fake.

No, there is actually a Bishop called Nazir-Ali (full name: Michael Nazi-Ali). Bishop of Rochester. And a prick if thee ask me.

     Huh. Learn something new everyday.
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« Reply #12 on: July 21, 2008, 01:29:11 PM »


"The Provisional BBC is a paramilitary organisation which split from the BBC in October 2006 in protest at its toleration of poor writing and Liberal Democrats. The Provisional BBC regrets any civilian casualties resulting from posts contained within, but lays the blame squarely at the foot of the Tories. It is our duty to resist them, by any and all means necessary."

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« Reply #13 on: July 21, 2008, 02:30:51 PM »

It's the blog of someone who think's he's funny. We should not encourage those Smiley
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« Reply #14 on: July 21, 2008, 02:56:28 PM »


"The Provisional BBC is a paramilitary organisation which split from the BBC in October 2006 in protest at its toleration of poor writing and Liberal Democrats. The Provisional BBC regrets any civilian casualties resulting from posts contained within, but lays the blame squarely at the foot of the Tories. It is our duty to resist them, by any and all means necessary."

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« Reply #15 on: July 21, 2008, 03:03:20 PM »


Yeah, alright... now I just feel like a jackass.


Well...don't feel too bad...the original source article lacked joke.
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« Reply #16 on: July 21, 2008, 04:10:52 PM »


Yeah, alright... now I just feel like a jackass.


Well...don't feel too bad...the original source article lacked joke.

Actually it did but you didn't get it Smiley

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« Reply #17 on: July 21, 2008, 04:25:31 PM »


Yeah, alright... now I just feel like a jackass.


Well...don't feel too bad...the original source article lacked joke.

Actually it did but you didn't get it Smiley



I got it. And it still wasn't funny. Not even up to a Headcases standard and that's saying something!
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« Reply #18 on: July 21, 2008, 05:04:40 PM »

As I just got done telling Bono on IM, so many things happen in the world that seem like they should by satire, that I have lost the ability to tell the difference.

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« Reply #19 on: July 21, 2008, 05:27:23 PM »

All the cool people split from the Anglican Church in the late 18th and early 19th centuries, anyway.
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« Reply #20 on: July 21, 2008, 05:51:03 PM »

All the cool people split from the Anglican Church in the late 18th and early 19th centuries, anyway.

Well, to be serious, the Anglican Communion is on life support right now, and its not looking good for it.  I don't think anyone should be surprised that this is the fate of a "church" that is literally founded on the notion that it is okay to sell out your principles whenever it becomes convenient.  The funny thing is, I can say this with reasonable assurance that I won't offend any of our British friends, since fewer than 1% of all people in Britain currently identify with the Anglican Communion.
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« Reply #21 on: July 21, 2008, 06:02:15 PM »

Well, to be serious, the Anglican Communion is on life support right now, and its not looking good for it.  I don't think anyone should be surprised that this is the fate of a "church" that is literally founded on the notion that it is okay to sell out your principles whenever it becomes convenient.  The funny thing is, I can say this with reasonable assurance that I won't offend any of our British friends, since fewer than 1% of all people in Britain currently identify with the Anglican Communion.

What I would give for the Catholic Church to allow such public debate and difference in opinion to be aired without the threat of discipline Sad
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« Reply #22 on: July 21, 2008, 06:04:34 PM »

I got it. And it still wasn't funny.

If I thought it was especially funny in its own right I wouldn't have posted it here in the way that I did Grin
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« Reply #23 on: July 21, 2008, 06:28:04 PM »

Well, to be serious, the Anglican Communion is on life support right now, and its not looking good for it.  I don't think anyone should be surprised that this is the fate of a "church" that is literally founded on the notion that it is okay to sell out your principles whenever it becomes convenient.  The funny thing is, I can say this with reasonable assurance that I won't offend any of our British friends, since fewer than 1% of all people in Britain currently identify with the Anglican Communion.

What I would give for the Catholic Church to allow such public debate and difference in opinion to be aired without the threat of discipline Sad

Actually, I think the RCC would be elated if the AC started up such talks, or even hinted at talks about talks.
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« Reply #24 on: July 21, 2008, 07:23:26 PM »

So this was supposed to be a parody of the split in Labour?
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