Russia`s population up for the 1st time since 1995

[Tender Branson]

Russia Ends 14 Years of Decline in Population on Immigrants

By Paul Abelsky

Feb. 18 (Bloomberg) -- Russia’s population increased in 2009, ending 14 years of declines, after growing immigration helped offset the country’s “natural decline,” the Federal Statistics Service said.

The population rose 23,300 to 141.9 million last year after a drop of 104,800 in 2008, the Moscow-based service said today. Deaths exceeded births by 249,400 people, compared with a difference of 362,100 in 2008.

The country’s population has been shrinking since 1995, which former President Vladimir Putin called Russia’s “most acute problem.” The population may shrink 2.1 percent, falling by 3 million to 139 million by 2031, according to the Federal Statistics Service’s base forecast, taking into account birth rates, mortality and migration.

Migrant inflows from former Soviet countries accounted for most of the increase, the service said today. Immigrants registered to stay in Russia for one year or more are counted as part of the country’s population, according to the report.

The number of deaths caused by “transport-related injuries” dropped 5,400 to 30,000 last year. Russia had 37,200 suicides in 2009, compared with 38,400 a year earlier.

http://www.businessweek.com/news/2010-02-18/russia-ends-14-years-of-decline-in-population-on-immigrants.html

[Lief 🗽]

Must be all those state-sponsored sex parties.

[k-onmmunist]

Probably won't last long.

[GMantis]

Must be all those state-sponsored sex parties.

It's actually the state sponsored pro-natal policy. Something a lot of European countries could (and should) copy.

Probably won't last long.

There has been a trend of increasing birth rates and decreasing death rates for many years now.

[Verily]

Must be all those state-sponsored sex parties.

It's actually the state sponsored pro-natal policy. Something a lot of European countries could (and should) copy.

*Yawn* Russia copied Italy's program when they implemented it, which is basically the same as Spain's program, and Greece's program, and all the Mediterranean countries' programs. They're all totally ineffective. This was a natural recovery of growth rates after years of social and economic stress forced birth rates down and death rates up in the aftermath of the collapse of the Soviet Union and subsequent decline of Russian society. Substantial out-migration of the intellectual class in the 90s didn't help.

[Bo]

I think many Eastern European countries began to either have their population increase or have their rate of population decline slowed down. I think that Russia's population might decrease again in the future, but certainly not by much in comparison. I don't think Russia's population will be any lower than 130 million ( a worst case scenario) in 2050.

[GMantis]

Must be all those state-sponsored sex parties.

It's actually the state sponsored pro-natal policy. Something a lot of European countries could (and should) copy.

*Yawn* Russia copied Italy's program when they implemented it, which is basically the same as Spain's program, and Greece's program, and all the Mediterranean countries' programs. They're all totally ineffective. This was a natural recovery of growth rates after years of social and economic stress forced birth rates down and death rates up in the aftermath of the collapse of the Soviet Union and subsequent decline of Russian society. Substantial out-migration of the intellectual class in the 90s didn't help.

Could you support this with some sources? France used a similar program and it has been largely successful.

[Beet]

I hope these are ethnic Russians coming in from other CIS states. Otherwise, more immigration of ethnic aliens will just lead to fascism, as we saw in Western Europe.

[12th Doctor]

Actually, it was the result of Russia cutting off the adoption market to foreign countries, instead opting to allow children to be "raised" in Hellhole orphanages, so as to attain their nationalistic goals of returning glory to "Mother Russia".

ing sick.

[ag]

Must be all those state-sponsored sex parties.

It's actually the state sponsored pro-natal policy. Something a lot of European countries could (and should) copy.

A policy that is paying you infinitecimal peanuts, that, possibly, if you are very lucky and have right connections will cover a miniscule share of your child-related costs. Give me a break. It's, actually, mostly, the simple fact that the current child-bearing generation is a bit larger than the previous one: the war and purge years are still being felt.

http://www.gks.ru/free_doc/2006/b06_11/05-03-1.htm

This is the picture from 2005, so add 5 years, and you'll get the largest generation to be around 25 or a bit over it: prime child-bearing age. Now, look further down the diagram, and satisfy yourself that this isn't going to last, unfortunately, for the same demographic reason.

[ag]

None of what is being talked about here is really an explanation. This is it, though:

http://www.gks.ru/free_doc/2006/b06_11/05-03-1.htm

This picture is from 2005, add a few years and you get the following

1. The largest generation is in their upper 20s: it's the prime child-bearing range.

2. The  smallest generation is around 65 - a prime mortality age is right there (those who have survived longer will live a few years more). 65 years of the Victory, you know.

It's remarkable, how clear this diagram is. You can see the 30s (purges and famines), you can see the 40s (WWII), you can see, how Russia is still trying to digest those, like a giant python digesting a kid. B-r-r.

[ag]

Actually, it was the result of Russia cutting off the adoption market to foreign countries, instead opting to allow children to be "raised" in Hellhole orphanages, so as to attain their nationalistic goals of returning glory to "Mother Russia".

ing sick.

Nah. That's peanuts.

[ag]

I hope these are ethnic Russians coming in from other CIS states. Otherwise, more immigration of ethnic aliens will just lead to fascism, as we saw in Western Europe.

That has largely happened already. Russia has had a larg in-migration all these years. I don't think there are many ethnic Russians in the "Republics" left who are still planning to come. And, in fact, even if they do, it's not very easily done: unless they got their Russian citizenship by late 1990s, they'd need to be naturalized, and, all the talk to the contrary, it's not easily doable. The biggest supply of Russian citizens outside of Russia in the ex-USSR is now, probably, in the Baltics, but those are not likely to move en masse. Also, of course, nearly everyone in Abkhazia and South Osetia carries a Russian passport - but these aren't ethnic Russians. Otherwise, it's mostly job seekers now, irrespective of ethnicity or passport. But, anyway, the main change is not the immigration - it is what I posted right above.

[Bunwahaha [still dunno why, but well, so be it]]

Must be all those state-sponsored sex parties.

It's actually the state sponsored pro-natal policy. Something a lot of European countries could (and should) copy.

*Yawn* Russia copied Italy's program when they implemented it, which is basically the same as Spain's program, and Greece's program, and all the Mediterranean countries' programs. They're all totally ineffective. This was a natural recovery of growth rates after years of social and economic stress forced birth rates down and death rates up in the aftermath of the collapse of the Soviet Union and subsequent decline of Russian society. Substantial out-migration of the intellectual class in the 90s didn't help.

Could you support this with some sources? France used a similar program and it has been largely successful.

Oh, we have had a program here? Of which epoch are we speaking about?