Would you support these common-sense regulations on guns?
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« on: February 21, 2018, 11:20:26 PM »

For people convicted of domestic violence, even a misdemeanor, how about a lifetime prohibition on firearms possession?

Further, a government license should be required for anyone who wants to manufacture, import, or sell firearms. The license should be mandatory not only for formal businesses, but also for individuals who make repetitive transactions for the purpose of profit. This would cover people at gun shows who put up signs declaring themselves to be “unlicensed dealers.” Anyone who engages in the firearms business without a federal license should be punished by up to five years imprisonment and a $250,000 fine.
 

Manufacturers, importers, and dealers who are granted a federal license should have to keep meticulous records of every transaction. Their records and inventory should be subject to warrantless, random inspections by the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives (ATF). If a license-holder goes out of business, all the records of past sales should be delivered to the ATF.

Before a gun store can sell a firearm to an ordinary citizen, the citizen should have to get government approval. This should apply not only to storefront sales, but also if the retailer rents a table at a gun show. As for the Internet, retailers can be allowed to advertise there, but the actual transfer of a firearm should only be allowed at the retailer’s place of business

The purchaser should be required to answer dozens of questions certifying her background information. Before the sale is consummated, the Federal Bureau of Investigation or a state counterpart ought to be contacted for a background check on the purchaser.

Any customer who purchases two or more handguns in a week should be automatically flagged and reported to the federal government and to local law enforcement.

Every handgun manufacturer should require handgun buyers to purchase a safe storage device for every handgun. Even if the buyer owns a gun safe, the buyer should always be forced to buy a separate locking device.

Of course, licensed manufacturers should have to put a serial number on every firearm. If someone alters or obliterates a serial number, the person should face five years imprisonment.

Felons should be forever prohibited from owning guns. They should never be allowed to hold a gun in their hands for even a few seconds. The lifetime prohibition should include non-violent felons who have been law-abiding for decades; anyone who was convicted of marijuana possession in 1971 should be presumed to be a continuing menace to society.

A lifetime prohibition should also apply to anyone who has ever been committed to a mental institution. Mental illness is not necessarily permanent, but the ban should be.

Patients prescribed medical marijuana should be banned, even in states where such use is legal. In fact, all medical marijuana cardholders should be automatically banned, regardless of whether they are current users.

Current federal gun laws provide a statutory procedure for prohibited persons to petition the ATF for a restoration of rights. For example, ATF would have discretion to restore the Second Amendment rights of a non-violent felon who has been law-abiding for many years. Congress should enact appropriations riders to prevent ATF from considering such petitions.

Only persons over 21 should be able to purchase a handgun at a gun store. That 18-to-20-year-olds defend our country with automatic weapons overseas does not mean that they can be trusted with handguns within our country. A similar law should bar rifle or shotgun purchases by persons who are under 18.

Assault rifles must be virtually banned. These, according to the U.S. Defense Intelligence Agency, are “short, compact, selective-fire weapons that fire a cartridge intermediate in power.” For example, the Russian AK-47 or the American M-16 rifles. No civilian should be able to transfer or possess any assault rifle that was not already in circulation by 1986.

Any of the older assault rifles in citizen hands should be registered with the government. If someone wants to acquire one, both the buyer and seller should have to file an application with the ATF. The tax for a transfer should be $200, to discourage ownership. In the application, the ATF should require fingerprints and two recent photographs. Local law enforcement should be notified. The FBI should conduct a background investigation, and the registration process should take months.

If the purchaser is permitted to acquire the assault rifle, she should be required to maintain records proving that the rifle is registered, and notify the government of any change in address. To take the assault rifle out of state, the owner should need written permission from ATF in advance.

Assault rifles are one type of automatic firearm, but there are many other types of automatics. All of them should be controlled just as strictly as assault rifles. A violation of the stringent laws on these guns should be a felony with up to 10 years imprisonment—and much longer in cases of multiple violations.

The above is just the minimum baseline for federal laws. States should be allowed to enact must more restrictive additional laws.
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« Reply #1 on: February 22, 2018, 12:02:01 AM »

A few of these are good ideas, most, not so much. I’m not sure whether this post is intended to be serious.

For example, I think the medical marijuana card ban on gun ownership is ridiculous.

The 2-handgun in a week reporting is bad.

And no “assault rifle” ban.

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« Reply #2 on: February 22, 2018, 08:58:44 PM »

tl; dr

The mood is there in the country to get a couple of modest regulations in place, but not a laundry list.
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« Reply #3 on: February 22, 2018, 09:02:55 PM »

Nothing on NASA spending? This can't be a real Kingpoleon proposal.
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« Reply #4 on: February 23, 2018, 07:12:39 AM »

Nazi-esque ideas.
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« Reply #5 on: February 23, 2018, 07:55:58 AM »


Ah, yes, we all remember that time when gun owners in Europe were herded into concentration camps in their millions, starved, abused and gassed to death, all because they owned guns Roll Eyes
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« Reply #6 on: February 23, 2018, 02:34:14 PM »

Ah, yes, we all remember that time when gun owners in Europe were herded into concentration camps in their millions, starved, abused and gassed to death, all because they owned guns Roll Eyes
If we had been allowed to own guns, perhaps fewer of us would have been gassed.
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« Reply #7 on: February 24, 2018, 12:02:39 PM »

Ah, yes, we all remember that time when gun owners in Europe were herded into concentration camps in their millions, starved, abused and gassed to death, all because they owned guns Roll Eyes
If we had been allowed to own guns, perhaps fewer of us would have been gassed.

To paraphrase something said in another thread, I'm doubtful that would have been of much use against Pzkw Mk III's and Ju 87's.  Might have spared the Soviets the trouble of killing quite as many Nazis, but that's about it.

It's the same sort of fantasy that Hamas and Hezbollah engage in today.

That said, it is the same sort of fantasy that led to the 2nd Amendment, that American minutemen drove off the Redcoats with the guns that were in their own homes.
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« Reply #8 on: March 24, 2018, 01:31:26 PM »

For the record, this is a list of all current federal gun regulations and restrictions.
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« Reply #9 on: March 24, 2018, 02:08:24 PM »

For the record, this is a list of all current federal gun regulations and restrictions.

I dont see any of the rules for gun length here.
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« Reply #10 on: March 24, 2018, 02:11:28 PM »

Very strong yes.
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