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« Reply #2975 on: November 08, 2018, 05:54:11 PM »

Once again, we haven't seen an image of the ballot in FL-24, which is the problem area.

All of Broward has a larger dropoff than everywhere else. Not just the FL-24 area - that's just where it was most extreme.
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« Reply #2976 on: November 08, 2018, 05:54:14 PM »

Once again, we haven't seen an image of the ballot in FL-24, which is the problem area.

https://twitter.com/NewsbySmiley/status/1060571314749128704/photo/1

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« Reply #2977 on: November 08, 2018, 05:54:44 PM »

that's FL-23
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« Reply #2978 on: November 08, 2018, 05:55:01 PM »


No, that has Debbie Wasserman Schultz on the ballot.
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« Reply #2979 on: November 08, 2018, 05:55:03 PM »

Once again, we haven't seen an image of the ballot in FL-24, which is the problem area.

There's almost no way that the ballot design could be so uniquely terrible to explain such a vast difference not seen in any other county/district combo.
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« Reply #2980 on: November 08, 2018, 05:55:32 PM »

Once again, we haven't seen an image of the ballot in FL-24, which is the problem area.

There's almost no way that the ballot design could be so uniquely terrible to explain such a vast difference not seen in any other county/district combo.
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« Reply #2981 on: November 08, 2018, 05:55:50 PM »

Once again, we haven't seen an image of the ballot in FL-24, which is the problem area.

There's almost no way that the ballot design could be so uniquely terrible to explain such a vast difference not seen in any other county/district combo.


...unless the design also caused an offset that ed with the machines.
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« Reply #2982 on: November 08, 2018, 05:56:08 PM »

^Additionally, the Senate race is located in the same position as that image. Whether DWS or another race is in the congressional spot doesn't change the layout itself.
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« Reply #2983 on: November 08, 2018, 05:56:23 PM »

Once again, we haven't seen an image of the ballot in FL-24, which is the problem area.

All of Broward has a larger dropoff than everywhere else. Not just the FL-24 area - that's just where it was most extreme.

In FL-24, there's a 10% dropoff in total votes between Gov and Sen. This is 3.6% in FL-20 and FL-22 and 2.8% in FL-23.
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« Reply #2984 on: November 08, 2018, 05:56:50 PM »

Once again, we haven't seen an image of the ballot in FL-24, which is the problem area.

All of Broward has a larger dropoff than everywhere else. Not just the FL-24 area - that's just where it was most extreme.

In FL-24, there's a 10% dropoff in total votes between Gov and Sen. This is 3.6% in FL-20 and FL-22 and 2.8% in FL-23.

...and under 1% in every other county in Florida.
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« Reply #2985 on: November 08, 2018, 05:57:37 PM »

I mean, theres not much reason to debate it. Nelson is getting a hand recount so we'll find out one way or the other.
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« Reply #2986 on: November 08, 2018, 05:57:49 PM »



This is where we are right now in the senate expectations game.
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« Reply #2987 on: November 08, 2018, 05:57:53 PM »



Here's a link to one of the ballots that are being scrutinized because of the placement of the senate race.

That doesnt look that egregious to be honest. There are multiple options on the left panel to vote for an I would assume most people who take the time to vote also take the time to read the whole ballot.
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« Reply #2988 on: November 08, 2018, 05:58:30 PM »

Once again, we haven't seen an image of the ballot in FL-24, which is the problem area.

All of Broward has a larger dropoff than everywhere else. Not just the FL-24 area - that's just where it was most extreme.

In FL-24, there's a 10% dropoff in total votes between Gov and Sen. This is 3.6% in FL-20 and FL-22 and 2.8% in FL-23.

...and under 1% in every other county in Florida.

If you want to go that route, then correcting the total Broward error likely benefits Scott, not Nelson.
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« Reply #2989 on: November 08, 2018, 05:58:33 PM »



Here's a link to one of the ballots that are being scrutinized because of the placement of the senate race.

That doesnt look that egregious to be honest. There are multiple options on the left panel to vote for an I would assume most people who take the time to vote also take the time to read the whole ballot.

Yes, again, I think there is a machine issue here.
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« Reply #2990 on: November 08, 2018, 05:58:55 PM »

Once again, we haven't seen an image of the ballot in FL-24, which is the problem area.

All of Broward has a larger dropoff than everywhere else. Not just the FL-24 area - that's just where it was most extreme.

In FL-24, there's a 10% dropoff in total votes between Gov and Sen. This is 3.6% in FL-20 and FL-22 and 2.8% in FL-23.

...and under 1% in every other county in Florida.

If you want to go that route, then correcting the total Broward error likely benefits Scott, not Nelson.

What makes you say that?
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« Reply #2991 on: November 08, 2018, 06:01:44 PM »



This is where we are right now in the senate expectations game.

Sounds pretty much par for the course for a 1) a very tight race and 2) a race initially thought to be 'over' that then got thrown into recount hell.
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« Reply #2992 on: November 08, 2018, 06:03:34 PM »

Once again, we haven't seen an image of the ballot in FL-24, which is the problem area.

All of Broward has a larger dropoff than everywhere else. Not just the FL-24 area - that's just where it was most extreme.

In FL-24, there's a 10% dropoff in total votes between Gov and Sen. This is 3.6% in FL-20 and FL-22 and 2.8% in FL-23.

...and under 1% in every other county in Florida.

If you want to go that route, then correcting the total Broward error likely benefits Scott, not Nelson.
Broward is the most Democratic county in Florida depending on how black turnout is in Gadsen County.
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« Reply #2993 on: November 08, 2018, 06:03:55 PM »

Once again, we haven't seen an image of the ballot in FL-24, which is the problem area.

All of Broward has a larger dropoff than everywhere else. Not just the FL-24 area - that's just where it was most extreme.

In FL-24, there's a 10% dropoff in total votes between Gov and Sen. This is 3.6% in FL-20 and FL-22 and 2.8% in FL-23.

...and under 1% in every other county in Florida.

If you want to go that route, then correcting the total Broward error likely benefits Scott, not Nelson.

What makes you say that?

Scott had more undervotes countywide than Nelson, especially in FL-22 and FL-23.
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« Reply #2994 on: November 08, 2018, 06:04:52 PM »

I keep hearing the name "Debbie Wasserman-Schultz" coming up in this discussion, so I blame her for all of this. Tongue
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« Reply #2995 on: November 08, 2018, 06:05:26 PM »

Once again, we haven't seen an image of the ballot in FL-24, which is the problem area.

All of Broward has a larger dropoff than everywhere else. Not just the FL-24 area - that's just where it was most extreme.

In FL-24, there's a 10% dropoff in total votes between Gov and Sen. This is 3.6% in FL-20 and FL-22 and 2.8% in FL-23.

...and under 1% in every other county in Florida.

If you want to go that route, then correcting the total Broward error likely benefits Scott, not Nelson.

What makes you say that?

Scott had more undervotes countywide than Nelson, especially in FL-22 and FL-23.

wait, we know the Governor vote composition of the undervotes?

Or did you just mean Scott trailed DeSantis by more? Because DeSantis is just outrunning Scott everywhere.
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« Reply #2996 on: November 08, 2018, 06:06:12 PM »

Anyone who has watched Arizona before knows that McSally is basically done for once the rest comes in.
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« Reply #2997 on: November 08, 2018, 06:08:21 PM »

FL is going to give me a stroke.
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« Reply #2998 on: November 08, 2018, 06:09:41 PM »

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« Reply #2999 on: November 08, 2018, 06:12:44 PM »

Number to remember on Florida:

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