‘No surprise’: US students slam Biden’s comments on Gaza encampments

[Fmr. Pres. Duke]

Hopefully Trump sends in the national guard to clear these kids out once he's back in office. They'll be so shocked!

[MichaelM24]

As someone who 100% supports the anti-genocide protests (and the fact I have to even write that sentence shows how far-gone Biden supporters and anti-free speech people are), I hope that these students look into third party alternatives, and understand that no one is ever required to vote for a presidential candidate that is helping support a genocide, as Biden clearly is.

He's not though. Let's speak facts here.

As far as I can see, he's still supporting Israel. Look how much money we just sent over to them despite their actions toward Palestine. To me, that's clearly supportive of their policies.

If you want to quibble about whether or not it's a "genocide," then perhaps I can simply change the term to "extreme over-reaction," - either way, Biden clearly doesn't give a damn about the Palestians in this conflict whatsoever, and I think many of the protesters can see this.

Yes, that's exactly why he's made it a huge mission to get as much aid into Gaza as he can, along with making there was $9B of humanitarian aid in the latest spending package. Along with his numerous remarks on the subject about caring about innocent Palestininan lives, yes this all definitely adds up to him not giving a damn about them at all. Why are people just straight up lying?

Those aid packages have been absolutely laughable. Sure, lets drop some aid into Palestine while we send Israel millions of dollars. Seems a good trade.

I've not lied whatsoever. As far as I can see, Biden does not care. Maybe you think I'm wrong, but I'm not lying.

Biden is supporting Israel. His government is cracking down on anti-Israel talking points (freedom of speech, in other words). These are not lies - it's Genocide Joe being the piece of trash he is.

$9B of aid is laughable? What universe are we living in at this point? You are lying, if Biden didn't care, he'd say no words on the Palestinians and make sure they got $0 in aid. But that's not the truth. So you're lying. His "government" is not cracking down on anti-Israel talking points, that's another lie. I seriously do not understand the alternate reality some of you live in.

Also, the fact that genocide keeps being thrown around as if it has no meaning is a whole additional thing. There are acts of war and casualties of war, those are very different than a determined genocide.

Again, I'm not lying. I may be wrong, in your view, but I'm not lying.

Given Biden's clear support for Israel, by definition, I don't think he cares whatsoever about Palestines.

And by his statements about the student protests, and the recent Antisemitism Awareness Act is clearly meant to stifle criticism of Israel. Now, perhaps Biden won't sign it should it pass the Senate, but given that 133 Democrats voted for it (and 70 Democrats against it), I have my doubts.

You may not understand where I and thousands of students are coming from, which is fine. We can't understand where Democrats and Biden supporters are coming from, given their support of Israel's actions, which even the ICC has called out (and rightly so).

[Devils30]

As someone who 100% supports the anti-genocide protests (and the fact I have to even write that sentence shows how far-gone Biden supporters and anti-free speech people are), I hope that these students look into third party alternatives, and understand that no one is ever required to vote for a presidential candidate that is helping support a genocide, as Biden clearly is.

He's not though. Let's speak facts here.

As far as I can see, he's still supporting Israel. Look how much money we just sent over to them despite their actions toward Palestine. To me, that's clearly supportive of their policies.

If you want to quibble about whether or not it's a "genocide," then perhaps I can simply change the term to "extreme over-reaction," - either way, Biden clearly doesn't give a damn about the Palestians in this conflict whatsoever, and I think many of the protesters can see this.

Yes, that's exactly why he's made it a huge mission to get as much aid into Gaza as he can, along with making there was $9B of humanitarian aid in the latest spending package. Along with his numerous remarks on the subject about caring about innocent Palestininan lives, yes this all definitely adds up to him not giving a damn about them at all. Why are people just straight up lying?

Those aid packages have been absolutely laughable. Sure, lets drop some aid into Palestine while we send Israel millions of dollars. Seems a good trade.

I've not lied whatsoever. As far as I can see, Biden does not care. Maybe you think I'm wrong, but I'm not lying.

Biden is supporting Israel. His government is cracking down on anti-Israel talking points (freedom of speech, in other words). These are not lies - it's Genocide Joe being the piece of trash he is.

$9B of aid is laughable? What universe are we living in at this point? You are lying, if Biden didn't care, he'd say no words on the Palestinians and make sure they got $0 in aid. But that's not the truth. So you're lying. His "government" is not cracking down on anti-Israel talking points, that's another lie. I seriously do not understand the alternate reality some of you live in.

Also, the fact that genocide keeps being thrown around as if it has no meaning is a whole additional thing. There are acts of war and casualties of war, those are very different than a determined genocide.

Again, I'm not lying. I may be wrong, in your view, but I'm not lying.

Given Biden's clear support for Israel, by definition, I don't think he cares whatsoever about Palestines.

And by his statements about the student protests, and the recent Antisemitism Awareness Act is clearly meant to stifle criticism of Israel. Now, perhaps Biden won't sign it should it pass the Senate, but given that 133 Democrats voted for it (and 70 Democrats against it), I have my doubts.

You may not understand where I and thousands of students are coming from, which is fine. We can't understand where Democrats and Biden supporters are coming from, given their support of Israel's actions, which even the ICC has called out (and rightly so).

What the hell do you want? An America ruled by leftists who rule like Stalin ruled the Soviet Union? As someone who has only voted Democratic (and probably will still in 2024), this is extremely concerning. And the ICC has less power than your local traffic court for a parking ticket. Obama's 2008 campaign was so inspirational and uplifting, what the hell has happened to the modern Democratic base?

[MichaelM24]

As someone who 100% supports the anti-genocide protests (and the fact I have to even write that sentence shows how far-gone Biden supporters and anti-free speech people are), I hope that these students look into third party alternatives, and understand that no one is ever required to vote for a presidential candidate that is helping support a genocide, as Biden clearly is.

He's not though. Let's speak facts here.

As far as I can see, he's still supporting Israel. Look how much money we just sent over to them despite their actions toward Palestine. To me, that's clearly supportive of their policies.

If you want to quibble about whether or not it's a "genocide," then perhaps I can simply change the term to "extreme over-reaction," - either way, Biden clearly doesn't give a damn about the Palestians in this conflict whatsoever, and I think many of the protesters can see this.

Yes, that's exactly why he's made it a huge mission to get as much aid into Gaza as he can, along with making there was $9B of humanitarian aid in the latest spending package. Along with his numerous remarks on the subject about caring about innocent Palestininan lives, yes this all definitely adds up to him not giving a damn about them at all. Why are people just straight up lying?

Those aid packages have been absolutely laughable. Sure, lets drop some aid into Palestine while we send Israel millions of dollars. Seems a good trade.

I've not lied whatsoever. As far as I can see, Biden does not care. Maybe you think I'm wrong, but I'm not lying.

Biden is supporting Israel. His government is cracking down on anti-Israel talking points (freedom of speech, in other words). These are not lies - it's Genocide Joe being the piece of trash he is.

$9B of aid is laughable? What universe are we living in at this point? You are lying, if Biden didn't care, he'd say no words on the Palestinians and make sure they got $0 in aid. But that's not the truth. So you're lying. His "government" is not cracking down on anti-Israel talking points, that's another lie. I seriously do not understand the alternate reality some of you live in.

Also, the fact that genocide keeps being thrown around as if it has no meaning is a whole additional thing. There are acts of war and casualties of war, those are very different than a determined genocide.

Again, I'm not lying. I may be wrong, in your view, but I'm not lying.

Given Biden's clear support for Israel, by definition, I don't think he cares whatsoever about Palestines.

And by his statements about the student protests, and the recent Antisemitism Awareness Act is clearly meant to stifle criticism of Israel. Now, perhaps Biden won't sign it should it pass the Senate, but given that 133 Democrats voted for it (and 70 Democrats against it), I have my doubts.

You may not understand where I and thousands of students are coming from, which is fine. We can't understand where Democrats and Biden supporters are coming from, given their support of Israel's actions, which even the ICC has called out (and rightly so).

What the hell do you want? An America ruled by leftists who rule like Stalin ruled the Soviet Union? As someone who has only voted Democratic (and probably will still in 2024), this is extremely concerning. And the ICC has less power than your local traffic court for a parking ticket. Obama's 2008 campaign was so inspirational and uplifting, what the hell has happened to the modern Democratic base?

I myself am a socialist, so I want capitalism ended in this country (which is why I don't vote Democratic - they're a capitalist party through-and-through).

I wouldn't call myself someone in the "Democratic base." I haven't voted Democratic since a 2018 Democratic primary for Congress. True, I have voted for Democrats in the past, and I would do so again under the right circumstances, but I don't think it'd be right to say that I'm a traditional "Democratic base," as I don't generally vote that way.

Obama's campaign was inspiring. Then he increased drone strikes, went against whistle-blowers, refused to shut down Guantanamo Bay, refused to even look into legalizing marijuana, etc.

More than anything, I'd like a party of leftist values as an option here, and sadly, all of the parties that fit that description are third parties that will have a hell of a time making an impact. Still, at this moment, it's the best leftists can do, as so far, it seems trying to go through the Democratic Party hasn't been working.

And I also want to make this clear - I know that I am a minority. I understand that. Still, I have to fight for what I believe in, no matter how unpopular this board finds it, and I will continue to do so.

[Illiniwek]

Hopefully Trump sends in the national guard to clear these kids out once he's back in office. They'll be so shocked!

They are going to be in for such a rude wake up call next year.

[OSR stands with Israel]

Biden should actually start implementing ideological vetting from immigrants in the Middle East . If he actually means what he says , he’d do that

[Fungsumanto]

Hopefully Trump sends in the national guard to clear these kids out once he's back in office. They'll be so shocked!

They are going to be in for such a rude wake up call next year.

You can only have so many rude awakenings before you're just woken up. I don't think many young people will be surprised when Trump oppresses them, but many were pretty surprised by Biden's actions these past few months.

[MichaelM24]

Hopefully Trump sends in the national guard to clear these kids out once he's back in office. They'll be so shocked!

They are going to be in for such a rude wake up call next year.

You can only have so many rude awakenings before you're just woken up. I don't think many young people will be surprised when Trump oppresses them, but many were pretty surprised by Biden's actions these past few months.

I want to second this.

If you're asking those protesting whether they think Trump would be better than Biden on Palestine, I have to imagine 85% of them would say "no." It's not like these kids are going off to vote for Trump (or at least, I hope to God these kids aren't) - it's that they disapprove of the way Biden's been handling it.

[Duke of York]

Hopefully Trump sends in the national guard to clear these kids out once he's back in office. They'll be so shocked!

They are going to be in for such a rude wake up call next year.

You can only have so many rude awakenings before you're just woken up. I don't think many young people will be surprised when Trump oppresses them, but many were pretty surprised by Biden's actions these past few months.

I want to second this.

If you're asking those protesting whether they think Trump would be better than Biden on Palestine, I have to imagine 85% of them would say "no." It's not like these kids are going off to vote for Trump (or at least, I hope to God these kids aren't) - it's that they disapprove of the way Biden's been handling it.

many of them might not vote.

[Stand With Israel. Crush Hamas]

These people can't be negotiated with. The only choice is to figure out how to win without them, and then be prepared to fight them.

[MichaelM24]

Hopefully Trump sends in the national guard to clear these kids out once he's back in office. They'll be so shocked!

They are going to be in for such a rude wake up call next year.

You can only have so many rude awakenings before you're just woken up. I don't think many young people will be surprised when Trump oppresses them, but many were pretty surprised by Biden's actions these past few months.

I want to second this.

If you're asking those protesting whether they think Trump would be better than Biden on Palestine, I have to imagine 85% of them would say "no." It's not like these kids are going off to vote for Trump (or at least, I hope to God these kids aren't) - it's that they disapprove of the way Biden's been handling it.

many of them might not vote.

I wouldn't be surprised. I wish they would consider voting, as there are candidates with whom they may generally agree with, but I suspect many just won't vote at all, which, in my personal opinion, is a shame and a waste.

That said, that's their choice. If someone doesn't want to vote, that's their own business.

[Vice President Christian Man]

Hopefully Trump sends in the national guard to clear these kids out once he's back in office. They'll be so shocked!

They are going to be in for such a rude wake up call next year.

You can only have so many rude awakenings before you're just woken up. I don't think many young people will be surprised when Trump oppresses them, but many were pretty surprised by Biden's actions these past few months.

I want to second this.

If you're asking those protesting whether they think Trump would be better than Biden on Palestine, I have to imagine 85% of them would say "no." It's not like these kids are going off to vote for Trump (or at least, I hope to God these kids aren't) - it's that they disapprove of the way Biden's been handling it.

The question is what percentage of them will vote for Trump out of spite to send Biden and the DNC a message, especially if they live in a swing state?

[Randy Marsh]

This is what leftists get for cultivating the pro-terrorist vote.

Sleep with dogs, wake up with fleas

[Duke of York]

Hopefully Trump sends in the national guard to clear these kids out once he's back in office. They'll be so shocked!

They are going to be in for such a rude wake up call next year.

You can only have so many rude awakenings before you're just woken up. I don't think many young people will be surprised when Trump oppresses them, but many were pretty surprised by Biden's actions these past few months.

I want to second this.

If you're asking those protesting whether they think Trump would be better than Biden on Palestine, I have to imagine 85% of them would say "no." It's not like these kids are going off to vote for Trump (or at least, I hope to God these kids aren't) - it's that they disapprove of the way Biden's been handling it.

The question is what percentage of them will vote for Trump out of spite to send Biden and the DNC a message, especially if they live in a swing state?

And they will  be in for quite a shock when Trump does nothing different.

[Vice President Christian Man]

Hopefully Trump sends in the national guard to clear these kids out once he's back in office. They'll be so shocked!

They are going to be in for such a rude wake up call next year.

You can only have so many rude awakenings before you're just woken up. I don't think many young people will be surprised when Trump oppresses them, but many were pretty surprised by Biden's actions these past few months.

I want to second this.

If you're asking those protesting whether they think Trump would be better than Biden on Palestine, I have to imagine 85% of them would say "no." It's not like these kids are going off to vote for Trump (or at least, I hope to God these kids aren't) - it's that they disapprove of the way Biden's been handling it.

The question is what percentage of them will vote for Trump out of spite to send Biden and the DNC a message, especially if they live in a swing state?

And they will  be in for quite a shock when Trump does nothing different.

Absolutely as Biden's been pretty restrained on the issue all things considered.

[MichaelM24]

Hopefully Trump sends in the national guard to clear these kids out once he's back in office. They'll be so shocked!

They are going to be in for such a rude wake up call next year.

You can only have so many rude awakenings before you're just woken up. I don't think many young people will be surprised when Trump oppresses them, but many were pretty surprised by Biden's actions these past few months.

I want to second this.

If you're asking those protesting whether they think Trump would be better than Biden on Palestine, I have to imagine 85% of them would say "no." It's not like these kids are going off to vote for Trump (or at least, I hope to God these kids aren't) - it's that they disapprove of the way Biden's been handling it.

The question is what percentage of them will vote for Trump out of spite to send Biden and the DNC a message, especially if they live in a swing state?

I would hope 0%, but I have no idea.

Since the beginning of the modern progressive movement (which I'm placing at 2015), I've urged leftists to not vote GOP. I'm very much against the idea of accelerationism insofar as voting Republican - I think it's a very bad idea.

Voting for Trump "out of spite" doesn't help at all. What I think would be of more use (and this is where I get into disagreements with many Democrats) is instead of voting Trump, they vote for a third party or independent candidate.

The way I see it, if Trump gets 47% of the vote, but 1.4% of that is leftists voting out of spite, that's terrible.

If a third party candidate or candidates splits that 1.4%(or whatever it happens to be), that's much preferable.

[Fungsumanto]

This is what leftists get for cultivating the pro-terrorist vote.

Sleep with dogs, wake up with fleas

The Left-Right divide isn't as big as the Young-Old divide.

[DrScholl]

Let's remember that half of the people protesting on these campuses aren't even students. And I suspect that the worst people are nothing but Trump/RNC/Right-Wing astroturf to who have been sent out to create chaos.

[Yelnoc]

Let's remember that half of the people protesting on these campuses aren't even students. And I suspect that the worst people are nothing but Trump/RNC/Right-Wing astroturf to who have been sent out to create chaos.

BlueAnon alert.

[DrScholl]

Let's remember that half of the people protesting on these campuses aren't even students. And I suspect that the worst people are nothing but Trump/RNC/Right-Wing astroturf to who have been sent out to create chaos.

BlueAnon alert.

If you don't find it highly suspicious that people are actually chanting pro-Hamas cheers then you are pretty gullible. A whole lot of what is happening sounds like the trash that the right-wing tries to push as true in their phony columns.

[Open Source Intelligence]

Hopefully Trump sends in the national guard to clear these kids out once he's back in office. They'll be so shocked!

They are going to be in for such a rude wake up call next year.

You can only have so many rude awakenings before you're just woken up. I don't think many young people will be surprised when Trump oppresses them, but many were pretty surprised by Biden's actions these past few months.

I want to second this.

If you're asking those protesting whether they think Trump would be better than Biden on Palestine, I have to imagine 85% of them would say "no." It's not like these kids are going off to vote for Trump (or at least, I hope to God these kids aren't) - it's that they disapprove of the way Biden's been handling it.

The question is what percentage of them will vote for Trump out of spite to send Biden and the DNC a message, especially if they live in a swing state?

I would hope 0%, but I have no idea.

Since the beginning of the modern progressive movement (which I'm placing at 2015), I've urged leftists to not vote GOP. I'm very much against the idea of accelerationism insofar as voting Republican - I think it's a very bad idea.

Voting for Trump "out of spite" doesn't help at all. What I think would be of more use (and this is where I get into disagreements with many Democrats) is instead of voting Trump, they vote for a third party or independent candidate.

The way I see it, if Trump gets 47% of the vote, but 1.4% of that is leftists voting out of spite, that's terrible.

If a third party candidate or candidates splits that 1.4%(or whatever it happens to be), that's much preferable.

People are too negative on both Biden and Trump for it to only be 1.4%. This is worse than 2016 when the dumbasses in both parties foisted on us Trump and Hillary. That wound up without what would be considered a strong third-party presidential candidate 6% of the total vote not voting for either of the two major candidates. This year I think it's easily 10%, could be 15 or 20.

Trump is Trump, we know what he is. Biden ran in 2020 of return to normal we have to remove Trump as President. He was shoved down other candidates' supporters' throats as the one guy that could best win the election after a coordinated effort to remove all the other candidates after the result of one primary to stop Bernie Sanders and Donald Trump, and we have records of Democrats on this board and what their opinions of Biden were in late 2019 and early 2020 before anyone objects to that. It was widely held at the very least by a large minority he would be a one-term transitional President, and that's not the case.

Fast forward 4 years now we have not returned to normal, there's more war around the world than any point since the end of the Cold War when you consider who is fighting and people that have taken sides and supplying one side or the other. You have a generation of people and companies that grew up on very low-cost debt which is probably gone for at least a generation if it ever comes back, and that 2020 Biden coalition is showing age and stretching due to take your pick of foreign policy, cost of living concerns, economic policy, and just simple contradictions, for example right now a lot of people including Democrats are vilifying these campus activists, that on the other hand we should forgive their student debt.

Democrats' strategy for a very long time has obviously been to make the 2024 general election entirely about Trump and mention not much about Biden and his record, which a benefit of that plan is you don't have to talk about yourself a lot. Safe to say that's not going to happen and Biden needs to act not like he's challenging Trump but he's President, here's my record, and here's what I will do until I leave the Oval Office on January 20th, 2029. I've heard way more about Trump's plans for the next 4 years than I have Biden's.

[MichaelM24]

Hopefully Trump sends in the national guard to clear these kids out once he's back in office. They'll be so shocked!

They are going to be in for such a rude wake up call next year.

You can only have so many rude awakenings before you're just woken up. I don't think many young people will be surprised when Trump oppresses them, but many were pretty surprised by Biden's actions these past few months.

I want to second this.

If you're asking those protesting whether they think Trump would be better than Biden on Palestine, I have to imagine 85% of them would say "no." It's not like these kids are going off to vote for Trump (or at least, I hope to God these kids aren't) - it's that they disapprove of the way Biden's been handling it.

The question is what percentage of them will vote for Trump out of spite to send Biden and the DNC a message, especially if they live in a swing state?

I would hope 0%, but I have no idea.

Since the beginning of the modern progressive movement (which I'm placing at 2015), I've urged leftists to not vote GOP. I'm very much against the idea of accelerationism insofar as voting Republican - I think it's a very bad idea.

Voting for Trump "out of spite" doesn't help at all. What I think would be of more use (and this is where I get into disagreements with many Democrats) is instead of voting Trump, they vote for a third party or independent candidate.

The way I see it, if Trump gets 47% of the vote, but 1.4% of that is leftists voting out of spite, that's terrible.

If a third party candidate or candidates splits that 1.4%(or whatever it happens to be), that's much preferable.

People are too negative on both Biden and Trump for it to only be 1.4%. This is worse than 2016 when the dumbasses in both parties foisted on us Trump and Hillary. That wound up without what would be considered a strong third-party presidential candidate 6% of the total vote not voting for either of the two major candidates. This year I think it's easily 10%, could be 15 or 20.

I want to be clear - and this was my fault for not clarifying it earlier - but that 1.4% was simply meant as an example, or place-holder. I suspect, like you, that it'll perhaps match 2016, or greatly exceed it, if we're lucky.

[President Johnson]

Biden should actually start implementing ideological vetting from immigrants in the Middle East . If he actually means what he says , he’d do that

Aren't many of these far-left nuts white Americans with no Muslim background? Also, different vetting would be useless for people born in the US as they are automatic citizens.

Biden should just ignore them, because changing course would hurt him much more. If you seriously believe Trump would be better for Palestinian cause, you've just lost it (he would even care, and probably would send the national guard to end the protests on his terms).

[Devils30]

These people can't be negotiated with. The only choice is to figure out how to win without them, and then be prepared to fight them.

Trump is going to go at them with a ton of force. Sure, it will be excessive but most moderates won't care if these people are taken out. Just stating the honest truth.

[Amenhotep Bakari-Sellers]

Hopefully Trump sends in the national guard to clear these kids out once he's back in office. They'll be so shocked!

He won't be in office he is going to jail