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NHLiberal
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« on: August 31, 2014, 10:13:29 PM »

People support minimum wage - See people want to raise the minimum wage, dumb conservatives.

People support Right-to-Work - Well, people just don't know what right to work is.

^^ Posters on this forum.

I think the fallacy here though is that when you say "minimum wage increase," it's pretty obvious what that means-- an increase in the minimum wage. But, to the average American, it's not immediately apparent that "right to work" means what it does, prohibiting collective bargaining by public sector unions. So to say polls showing people support increasing the minimum wage means people support increasing the minimum wage but polls showing people support RTW doesn't actually mean people support RTW is actually a very fair assessment. Given the high approval rating for unions, it's pretty likely that when asked about the specific provisions of RTW, people who initially say they support it won't support them, just like when asked about the specific provisions of the ACA, people support them even though they oppose "Obamacare."
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NHLiberal
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« Reply #1 on: September 03, 2014, 10:27:23 AM »

People support minimum wage - See people want to raise the minimum wage, dumb conservatives.

People support Right-to-Work - Well, people just don't know what right to work is.

^^ Posters on this forum.

I think the fallacy here though is that when you say "minimum wage increase," it's pretty obvious what that means-- an increase in the minimum wage. But, to the average American, it's not immediately apparent that "right to work" means what it does, prohibiting collective bargaining by public sector unions.
That's not what right-to-work is. I think you're confusing it with the collective bargaining reforms passed in Wisconsin, which weren't RTW (Walker wasn't able to get that passed). RTW has nothing to do with public-sector unions; it restricts private-sector union security agreements.


Yup, sorry, I got mixed up, but the same point still stands. Minimum wage increase obviously means what it says; the meaning of right to work is not obvious from the name and it sounds like something nice. So that sort of response that EG seemed to mock is actually perfectly legitimate.
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