GA-SEN 2022 Megathread: Werewolves and Vampires
       |           

Welcome, Guest. Please login or register.
Did you miss your activation email?
May 09, 2024, 07:57:40 PM
News: Election Simulator 2.0 Released. Senate/Gubernatorial maps, proportional electoral votes, and more - Read more

  Talk Elections
  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion
  Congressional Elections (Moderators: Brittain33, GeorgiaModerate, Gass3268, Virginiá, Gracile)
  GA-SEN 2022 Megathread: Werewolves and Vampires
« previous next »
Pages: 1 ... 89 90 91 92 93 [94] 95 96 97 98 99 ... 147
Author Topic: GA-SEN 2022 Megathread: Werewolves and Vampires  (Read 144054 times)
2016
Junior Chimp
*****
Posts: 7,579


Show only this user's posts in this thread
« Reply #2325 on: December 06, 2022, 03:33:06 PM »

Warnock will win by 10+ Points. The Question is when will the Race be called. My guess between 8 and 9pm ET!

So basically a Chambliss vs. Martin 2008 situation? If Republican turnout is way down, it could happen, but I’d think a high single-digit win is closer to Warnock's realistic ceiling, and I’m not sure I’d even bet on that. Don’t really get why people are so confident here.
Camden County which went +33 Walker in November only has about 4K People Voting through 2pm. Walker needs to be closer to 9K to have any chance at all.

Camden County suggest Republican Turnout WAAAY DOWN!

That’s most likely bad news for Walker, but also just a snapshot of a single county at a particular time. How many votes were cast early? How many remaining votes will be cast? If you know the answers to those two questions, it’ll be a lot more indicative.

I’m not denying that this election is an uphill battle for the GOP or that Warnock could win in a rout, but I wouldn’t call it yet.

It would also be helpful if you provided a source for your claims, especially turnout reports, which tend to be deliberately selective to feed a particular narrative.
Logged
MT Treasurer
IndyRep
Atlas Icon
*****
Posts: 15,276
United States


Show only this user's posts in this thread
« Reply #2326 on: December 06, 2022, 03:37:14 PM »


Thanks! Someone in the replies mentioned that election day (only) turnout on Nov. 8 was 7k in this county and that they do seem to be on pace on to match that, but how many early votes were cast for the runoff this time (in this county)?
Logged
Brittain33
brittain33
Moderator
Atlas Star
*****
Posts: 22,008


Show only this user's posts in this thread
« Reply #2327 on: December 06, 2022, 03:38:14 PM »

Warnock will win by 10+ Points. The Question is when will the Race be called. My guess between 8 and 9pm ET!

This is the only time I can ever recall seeing you make a prediction that is more Dem friendly than the conventional wisdom.

Why now?

Is it because you have dumped Trump for DeSantis and you figure if Walker loses badly it will reflect poorly on Trump and ultimately help DeSantis?

He wants to own the libs by pretending Warnock underperforms.
Logged
Person Man
Angry_Weasel
Atlas Superstar
*****
Posts: 36,667
United States


Show only this user's posts in this thread
« Reply #2328 on: December 06, 2022, 03:39:10 PM »



I wonder what's it like in Florida regardless of the pre-Western/post-American political culture that has been promoted there.
Logged
Person Man
Angry_Weasel
Atlas Superstar
*****
Posts: 36,667
United States


Show only this user's posts in this thread
« Reply #2329 on: December 06, 2022, 03:42:14 PM »

Warnock will win by 10+ Points. The Question is when will the Race be called. My guess between 8 and 9pm ET!

This is the only time I can ever recall seeing you make a prediction that is more Dem friendly than the conventional wisdom.

Why now?

Is it because you have dumped Trump for DeSantis and you figure if Walker loses badly it will reflect poorly on Trump and ultimately help DeSantis?

He wants to own the libs by pretending Warnock underperforms.

Probably. DeSantis is basically "Not Trump", but Trump. He's the ultimate compromise candidate.
Logged
2016
Junior Chimp
*****
Posts: 7,579


Show only this user's posts in this thread
« Reply #2330 on: December 06, 2022, 03:44:08 PM »

Warnock will win by 10+ Points. The Question is when will the Race be called. My guess between 8 and 9pm ET!

This is the only time I can ever recall seeing you make a prediction that is more Dem friendly than the conventional wisdom.

Why now?

Is it because you have dumped Trump for DeSantis and you figure if Walker loses badly it will reflect poorly on Trump and ultimately help DeSantis?
Republican Party is losing ELECTION after ELECTION because of a certain Incompetent Individual called Donald John Trump + Candidates he endorses.

I will support any Republican Nominee in 2024 NOT NAMED TRUMP except for former VP Mike Pence. Pence is too much of an religious BIGOT. We don't need another one like Mitt Romney was. Romney lost 2012 because he was a Mormon and Pence has suspicious religious beliefs.

If it's DeSantis - Fine with me.
If it's Youngkin - Fine with me.
If it's Larry Hogan - I'd would have some reservations about his Policies but I'd vote for him.
If it's Haley - Fine with me.

Republican Party needs to defeat Trump at all costs YES even preventing Trump folks from caucusing or voting in GOP Primaries.

I want TRUMP barred from ever seeking Office again.
Logged
Spectator
Sr. Member
****
Posts: 3,383
United States


Show only this user's posts in this thread
« Reply #2331 on: December 06, 2022, 03:47:46 PM »

Warnock will win by 10+ Points. The Question is when will the Race be called. My guess between 8 and 9pm ET!

This is the only time I can ever recall seeing you make a prediction that is more Dem friendly than the conventional wisdom.

Why now?

Is it because you have dumped Trump for DeSantis and you figure if Walker loses badly it will reflect poorly on Trump and ultimately help DeSantis?
Republican Party is losing ELECTION after ELECTION because of a certain Incompetent Individual called Donald John Trump + Candidates he endorses.

I will support any Republican Nominee in 2024 NOT NAMED TRUMP except for former VP Mike Pence. Pence is too much of an religious BIGOT. We don't need another one like Mitt Romney was. Romney lost 2012 because he was a Mormon and Pence has suspicious religious beliefs.

If it's DeSantis - Fine with me.
If it's Youngkin - Fine with me.
If it's Larry Hogan - I'd would have some reservations about his Policies but I'd vote for him.
If it's Haley - Fine with me.

Republican Party needs to defeat Trump at all costs YES even preventing Trump folks from caucusing or voting in GOP Primaries.

I want TRUMP barred from ever seeking Office again.

Then maybe the GOP should’ve impeached him in 2021 then.
Logged
GeorgiaModerate
Moderator
Atlas Superstar
*****
Posts: 32,809


Show only this user's posts in this thread
« Reply #2332 on: December 06, 2022, 03:49:07 PM »


Thanks! Someone in the replies mentioned that election day (only) turnout on Nov. 8 was 7k in this county and that they do seem to be on pace on to match that, but how many early votes were cast for the runoff this time (in this county)?

According to https://georgiavotes.com/county.php, Camden County has cast 8,981 early votes in the runoff.  (This was 81.4% of their November 8 early vote, which works out to just over 11K.)
Logged
Del Tachi
Republican95
Atlas Icon
*****
Posts: 17,914
United States


Political Matrix
E: 0.52, S: 1.46

P P P

Show only this user's posts in this thread
« Reply #2333 on: December 06, 2022, 04:02:24 PM »


Thanks! Someone in the replies mentioned that election day (only) turnout on Nov. 8 was 7k in this county and that they do seem to be on pace on to match that, but how many early votes were cast for the runoff this time (in this county)?

According to https://georgiavotes.com/county.php, Camden County has cast 8,981 early votes in the runoff.  (This was 81.4% of their November 8 early vote, which works out to just over 11K.)

Overall, the early vote seems to be holding up for Warnock but there are some worrying numbers for Democrats here, especially among non-ATL sources of D votes where Warnock will need strong margins in a close race.  Places like Chatham (Savannah) and Bibb (Macon) counties, which are only at about 61-62% November early vote.  Fulton also looks pretty weak at 65%.   
Logged
Adam Griffin
Atlas Star
*****
Posts: 20,090
Greece


Political Matrix
E: -7.35, S: -6.26

Show only this user's posts in this thread
« Reply #2334 on: December 06, 2022, 04:04:20 PM »

An hour later: 153/163 Dekalb precincts currently have no wait times; 8 have waits of approximately 5 minutes & 2 have 10-minute waits.

Seems like a suboptimally large # of people voted early then, assuming they were in town today?

Apparently (think I saw it here on an earlier post), 250k people statewide voted in the first 2 hours. This of course was a combination of working-age people queuing up before their shifts & an absurdly large number of old farts who've been up since 4 with nothing better to do before swinging by the Hardee's for their sausage and mustard biscuits & going to their doctor appointments.

This hits a little too close to home Smiley



Logged
MT Treasurer
IndyRep
Atlas Icon
*****
Posts: 15,276
United States


Show only this user's posts in this thread
« Reply #2335 on: December 06, 2022, 04:06:02 PM »


Thanks! Someone in the replies mentioned that election day (only) turnout on Nov. 8 was 7k in this county and that they do seem to be on pace on to match that, but how many early votes were cast for the runoff this time (in this county)?

According to https://georgiavotes.com/county.php, Camden County has cast 8,981 early votes in the runoff.  (This was 81.4% of their November 8 early vote, which works out to just over 11K.)

Thank you! (also for providing the source)

So ~9K early votes + ~7K election day votes = ~16K in total would be a realistic estimate for Camden County? ~18K votes were cast in November, so that would amount to 85%-90% of the November total.

Maybe not enough for Walker, but not nearly as bad for him as 2016 made it out to be.
Logged
wbrocks67
Atlas Star
*****
Posts: 22,381


Show only this user's posts in this thread
« Reply #2336 on: December 06, 2022, 04:09:27 PM »

Watching CNN, no one speaking about an exit poll so I wonder if they're not doing it.
Logged
Adam Griffin
Atlas Star
*****
Posts: 20,090
Greece


Political Matrix
E: -7.35, S: -6.26

Show only this user's posts in this thread
« Reply #2337 on: December 06, 2022, 04:14:24 PM »

Warnock will win by 10+ Points. The Question is when will the Race be called. My guess between 8 and 9pm ET!

So basically a Chambliss vs. Martin 2008 situation? If Republican turnout is way down, it could happen, but I’d think a high single-digit win is closer to Warnock's realistic ceiling, and I’m not sure I’d even bet on that. Don’t really get why people are so confident here.
Camden County which went +33 Walker in November only has about 4K People Voting through 2pm. Walker needs to be closer to 9K to have any chance at all.

Camden County suggest Republican Turnout WAAAY DOWN!

That’s most likely bad news for Walker, but also just a snapshot of a single county at a particular time. How many votes were cast early? How many remaining votes will be cast? If you know the answers to those two questions, it’ll be a lot more indicative.

I’m not denying that this election is an uphill battle for the GOP or that Warnock could win in a rout, but I wouldn’t call it yet.

It would also be helpful if you provided a source for your claims, especially turnout reports, which tend to be deliberately selective to feed a particular narrative.


...you do realize that those figures are Election Day only, right?

Camden had 17,873 total votes in November.

In the runoff, it has banked 8,981 early votes + 3,937 ED votes as of that update = 12,918 votes total. It's at 72% of total turnout as of 2 PM, which is perfectly fine and not indicative of a GOP turnout collapse. Dekalb was at 74% by the same metric just a bit after 2 PM as well, for comparison.  
Logged
Adam Griffin
Atlas Star
*****
Posts: 20,090
Greece


Political Matrix
E: -7.35, S: -6.26

Show only this user's posts in this thread
« Reply #2338 on: December 06, 2022, 04:31:54 PM »

Dekalb County:

Logged
Adam Griffin
Atlas Star
*****
Posts: 20,090
Greece


Political Matrix
E: -7.35, S: -6.26

Show only this user's posts in this thread
« Reply #2339 on: December 06, 2022, 04:38:36 PM »

As of right now, 174,099 of the 223,636 non-spoiled/canceled/rejected ballots have been received (77.84%).

An additional 18,527 votes received were received on Monday and reported today. The total EV received as of Sunday stands at 1,886,551 votes.

Another 3,239 ABMs received yesterday have been added, for a current EV total of 1,889,790 votes.
Logged
Adam Griffin
Atlas Star
*****
Posts: 20,090
Greece


Political Matrix
E: -7.35, S: -6.26

Show only this user's posts in this thread
« Reply #2340 on: December 06, 2022, 05:31:40 PM »

THE NEEDLE HAS ARRIVED

https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2022/12/06/us/elections/results-georgia-us-senate-runoff.html
Logged
Ben.
Ben
YaBB God
*****
Posts: 4,249


Show only this user's posts in this thread
« Reply #2341 on: December 06, 2022, 05:32:28 PM »

As of right now, 174,099 of the 223,636 non-spoiled/canceled/rejected ballots have been received (77.84%).

An additional 18,527 votes received were received on Monday and reported today. The total EV received as of Sunday stands at 1,886,551 votes.

Another 3,239 ABMs received yesterday have been added, for a current EV total of 1,889,790 votes.

Maybe stating the obvious, but if the total EV is 1.8m and the SoS is predicting an Election Day vote of 1.2-1.4m that's a steep hill for the GOP?
Logged
Eraserhead
Atlas Legend
*****
Posts: 44,556
United States


Show only this user's posts in this thread
« Reply #2342 on: December 06, 2022, 05:33:56 PM »

Watching CNN, no one speaking about an exit poll so I wonder if they're not doing it.

Probably didn't want to pay for one. Last time it was two races and it decided control of the Senate. This time it's just one and it won't. Still a bummer though.
Logged
Adam Griffin
Atlas Star
*****
Posts: 20,090
Greece


Political Matrix
E: -7.35, S: -6.26

Show only this user's posts in this thread
« Reply #2343 on: December 06, 2022, 05:36:16 PM »

As of right now, 174,099 of the 223,636 non-spoiled/canceled/rejected ballots have been received (77.84%).

An additional 18,527 votes received were received on Monday and reported today. The total EV received as of Sunday stands at 1,886,551 votes.

Another 3,239 ABMs received yesterday have been added, for a current EV total of 1,889,790 votes.

Maybe stating the obvious, but if the total EV is 1.8m and the SoS is predicting an Election Day vote of 1.2-1.4m that's a steep hill for the GOP?

There's barely any pathway whatsoever for Walker if ED turnout is below 1.4m. Mathematically, they do exist...but unless the EV simultaneously looked unprecedentedly Democratic yet voted for Walker at much higher than expected levels, it's a hard needle to thread.
Logged
Tekken_Guy
Atlas Icon
*****
Posts: 13,047
United States


P P P
Show only this user's posts in this thread
« Reply #2344 on: December 06, 2022, 05:38:24 PM »

As of right now, 174,099 of the 223,636 non-spoiled/canceled/rejected ballots have been received (77.84%).

An additional 18,527 votes received were received on Monday and reported today. The total EV received as of Sunday stands at 1,886,551 votes.

Another 3,239 ABMs received yesterday have been added, for a current EV total of 1,889,790 votes.

Maybe stating the obvious, but if the total EV is 1.8m and the SoS is predicting an Election Day vote of 1.2-1.4m that's a steep hill for the GOP?

There's barely any pathway whatsoever for Walker if ED turnout is below 1.4m.

Is there any reason to expect ED turnout to outpace November?
Logged
Ben.
Ben
YaBB God
*****
Posts: 4,249


Show only this user's posts in this thread
« Reply #2345 on: December 06, 2022, 05:40:25 PM »

As of right now, 174,099 of the 223,636 non-spoiled/canceled/rejected ballots have been received (77.84%).

An additional 18,527 votes received were received on Monday and reported today. The total EV received as of Sunday stands at 1,886,551 votes.

Another 3,239 ABMs received yesterday have been added, for a current EV total of 1,889,790 votes.

Maybe stating the obvious, but if the total EV is 1.8m and the SoS is predicting an Election Day vote of 1.2-1.4m that's a steep hill for the GOP?

There's barely any pathway whatsoever for Walker if ED turnout is below 1.4m. Mathematically, they do exist...but unless the EV simultaneously looked unprecedentedly Democratic yet voted for Walker at much higher than expected levels, it's a hard needle to thread.

Best bet for Walker is a big late day surge, still possible - but agree it looks like a very narrow path if we're at 70-75% of November ED turnout with a few hours to go.
Logged
Adam Griffin
Atlas Star
*****
Posts: 20,090
Greece


Political Matrix
E: -7.35, S: -6.26

Show only this user's posts in this thread
« Reply #2346 on: December 06, 2022, 05:42:09 PM »

3 PM:

Logged
Antonio the Sixth
Antonio V
Atlas Institution
*****
Posts: 58,231
United States


Political Matrix
E: -7.87, S: -3.83

P P
Show only this user's posts in this thread
« Reply #2347 on: December 06, 2022, 05:43:15 PM »

Will there be any last statewide turnout update before results start trickling in?
Logged
Tekken_Guy
Atlas Icon
*****
Posts: 13,047
United States


P P P
Show only this user's posts in this thread
« Reply #2348 on: December 06, 2022, 05:45:09 PM »

As of right now, 174,099 of the 223,636 non-spoiled/canceled/rejected ballots have been received (77.84%).

An additional 18,527 votes received were received on Monday and reported today. The total EV received as of Sunday stands at 1,886,551 votes.

Another 3,239 ABMs received yesterday have been added, for a current EV total of 1,889,790 votes.

Maybe stating the obvious, but if the total EV is 1.8m and the SoS is predicting an Election Day vote of 1.2-1.4m that's a steep hill for the GOP?

There's barely any pathway whatsoever for Walker if ED turnout is below 1.4m. Mathematically, they do exist...but unless the EV simultaneously looked unprecedentedly Democratic yet voted for Walker at much higher than expected levels, it's a hard needle to thread.

Best bet for Walker is a big late day surge, still possible - but agree it looks like a very narrow path if we're at 70-75% of November ED turnout with a few hours to go.

Especially if Dems perform much stronger than usual due to the lines on EV.
Logged
Adam Griffin
Atlas Star
*****
Posts: 20,090
Greece


Political Matrix
E: -7.35, S: -6.26

Show only this user's posts in this thread
« Reply #2349 on: December 06, 2022, 05:46:17 PM »

As of right now, 174,099 of the 223,636 non-spoiled/canceled/rejected ballots have been received (77.84%).

An additional 18,527 votes received were received on Monday and reported today. The total EV received as of Sunday stands at 1,886,551 votes.

Another 3,239 ABMs received yesterday have been added, for a current EV total of 1,889,790 votes.

Maybe stating the obvious, but if the total EV is 1.8m and the SoS is predicting an Election Day vote of 1.2-1.4m that's a steep hill for the GOP?

There's barely any pathway whatsoever for Walker if ED turnout is below 1.4m.

Is there any reason to expect ED turnout to outpace November?

The only real scenario I could see where this materializes is if long wait times during EV in the metro led to more Democrats waiting to vote until ED. I suppose absent of that we could still see that happen, but just barely (for reference, ED ballots cast in the Senate race in November = 1,413,719).
Logged
Pages: 1 ... 89 90 91 92 93 [94] 95 96 97 98 99 ... 147  
« previous next »
Jump to:  


Login with username, password and session length

Terms of Service - DMCA Agent and Policy - Privacy Policy and Cookies

Powered by SMF 1.1.21 | SMF © 2015, Simple Machines

Page created in 0.097 seconds with 12 queries.