COVID-19 Megathread 5: The Trumps catch COVID-19

[Nyvin]

Here's a good question - How do these protest to re-open fit in with the Republican saying "All Lives Matter"?

[Nyvin]

For Arch, I get it, but the President knows he is not a doctor. The actual context was not as bad live when he said it. He was just being excited about the results, and they are exciting developments.

As for TSA's commentary, even through Dr Birx and Dr Fauci sometimes cringe about Donald, over the last week, I have noticed a level of disdain from all 5 or 6 doctors against the media.

There has definitely been a shift in the Doctors attitude to the level of misinformation that the media is responsible for. Dr Fauci and the Surgeon General have both got up and expressed concern for being reported correctly.

The doctors need to be quoted correctly, and they are struggling to get good air time.

Unfortunately, in this instance, Trump said something (as was correctly quoted by Arch) completely stupid, and none of the reporting of the actual real scientific results are being discussed.

He literally discussed "injection" (exact word used) of UV light and "disinfectant" (exact word used) into the bodies of infected people, and then said the CDC people were going to "test it".  How was that not as bad live in actual context?  

The guy is a buffoon for saying that in a press conference.   Why do we have these briefings anymore if it's just about Trump's stupidity?

[Nyvin]

Arizona, Texas, Georgia, and Florida are all at almost the exact same trajectory right now

https://covidbystate.org/?fbclid=IwAR1EdCu4NS7Vx3WHS8PT5oSimEdxCxIYp-_5SuNCBiSOeDtI2QE-3eC355g#/TX-FL-GA-AZ

[Nyvin]

Not sure where you're getting the data about the protests and would like to see information backing that up. Here in Wisconsin, it's an increase among young people as well, but a large percentage traced back to bars, not protests.

Protests are not currently associated with Dane County's rise in COVID-19 cases

What the data look like today

Here’s a recap of the data from June:

622 people tested positive for COVID-19 in Dane County between June 1 through June 24. For the question "In the 14 days before symptom onset, did you attend a gathering, party, or meeting with people from outside your household":

•     288 answered "No."
•     213 answered "Yes", and of those, 12 said they had attended a protest.
•     6 answered "Unknown."

From June 13 through June 26, 614 people tested positive for COVID-19 in Dane County. Here’s what we know about these cases:

•     45% of cases interviewed reported attending a gathering or party with people outside of their household.
•     28% of cases (a total of 172) were associated with a cluster: 132 from bars, 14 from workplaces, 11 from congregate facilities, 3 from daycares/preschools, and 12 from other clusters.

Our data are not showing a large impact from protests at this time. This makes sense when thinking about what protests look like: they are outside, many people are wearing masks, and people are moving and not always near the same people for an extended period of time. With what we know about COVID-19, this activity is going to be less risky than gatherings that are indoors, do not have physical distancing, do not have people wearing masks, and include the same people near each other for extended periods of time.

Data Notes for the Week of June 29

49% of cases were between 18-25 (i.e. students or hangers-on at UW). Large numbers infected at bars. It is illegal for those between 18-21 to go to bars. Who goes to bars? People with lots of free time. Parents and those who have get up and go to work limit their time at bars. Protests and bars draw the same customers.

If you go to a kegger, you are pretending that it is like a household because it is in a house.

Bar goers go to protests, protesters go to bars to brag about their exploits. At both types of events, there are large interchanges. Older couples might go to a restaurant and enjoy meal with a glass of wine. They're not shouting to be heard.

You should join QAnon,  you'd be good at pushing conspiracy theories.