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[Lord Admirale]

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What on earth happened here

[President of the great nation of 🏳️‍⚧️]

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What on earth happened here

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[HomestarSB9]

2020

Gov. Steve Bullock (D-MT) / Sen. Kamala Harris (D-CA) - 538 EVs
Pres. Donald Trump (R-NY) / Vice Pres. Mike Pence (R-IN) - 0 EVs

[America's Sweetheart ❤/𝕿𝖍𝖊 𝕭𝖔𝖔𝖙𝖞 𝖂𝖆𝖗𝖗𝖎𝖔𝖗]

A different map, of a outrageously implausible scenario for 2020, in which Trump is defeated for reelection. It includes a fictional Democratic nominee:

For this large of a blowout (on the county level) to happen, 2 very implausible things would have to happen: the Democratic ticket would have to be something like Manchin/Edwards, and Trump would have to shoot a man on 5th avenue the weekend before the election.

[Calthrina950]

A different map, of a outrageously implausible scenario for 2020, in which Trump is defeated for reelection. It includes a fictional Democratic nominee:

For this large of a blowout (on the county level) to happen, 2 very implausible things would have to happen: the Democratic ticket would have to be something like Manchin/Edwards, and Trump would have to shoot a man on 5th avenue the weekend before the election.

It is an alternate history scenario, with a fictional Democratic nominee. But I also have posted here another scenario, derived from the Campaign Trail Game, that I am also seeking comment on.

[NHI]

Burning the whole thing down

✓ Speaker Newt Gingrich/Gov. Lamar Alexander: 270 (48.47%)

Pres. Bill Clinton/Vice Pres. Al Gore: 268 (49.10%)

The Millennium

✓ Frm. Vice Pres. Al Gore/Rep. Dick Gephardt: 308 (49.52%)

Vice Pres. Lamar Alexander/Sen. John McCain: 230 (47.99%)

Calm Before the Storm

✓ Pres. Al Gore/Vice Pres. Dick Gephardt: 366 (52.71%)

Sen. John McCain/Mayor Rudy Giuliani: 172 (44.11%)

The Revolution Continued

✓ Sen. George Allen/Gov. Mitt Romney: 370 (53.79%)

Vice Pres. Dick Gephardt/Sen. Barbara Boxer: 153 (45.01%)

Game Change

✓ Businessman Donald J. Trump/Gov. Brian Schweitzer: 397 (52.95%)

Pres. George Allen/Vice Pres. Mitt Romney: 141 (44.47%)

Ralph Nader/Matt Gonzalez: 0 (1.57%)

Shining City

✓ Pres. Donald J. Trump/Vice Pres. Brian Schweitzer: 497 (60.56%)

Sen. Lindsey Graham/Gov. Jon Huntsman 41 (36.91%)

Jill Stein/Cheri Honkala: 0 (0.97%)

Forward or Bust

✓ Vice Pres. Brian Schweitzer/Sen Joe Manchin: 483 (57.15%)

Gov. Chris Christie/Gov. Jeff Sessions: 41 (39.91%)

Jill Stein/Cheri Honkala: 0 (1.04%)

[Oldiesfreak1854]

https://www.americanhistoryusa.com/campaign-trail/game/532449

Campaign Trail 1916.  Has anyone managed to win both the popular and electoral vote as Hughes?  Because I can't do it.

[Blackacre]

Governor Tomás Lopez (D-NM)/Senator Marcus Smith (D-WY): ~317 EVs, ~51%

Vice President Austen Petersen (R-MO)/Governor Simone Johnson (R-FL): ~238 EVs,
 ~49%

The Presidential Election of 2044 was the closest Presidential election since 2016. New Mexico's Tomás Lopez was able to come out on top by turning out the Ascendant Coalition: a combination of recently upwardly mobile regions that had benefitted from the programs of the Brown and Harris Presidencies that Conservative firebrand and Vice President Petersen was seen as wanting to cut. Vice President Petersen, to his credit, won many of the states that put Outgoing President Aaron Seagull (R-NY) over the top, like Minnesota and Illinois, as well as traditionally Republican (at the Presidential level) Oregon and Washington and many traditional swing states like Florida, Tennessee, Pennsylvania and Connecticut.

However, it wasn't quite enough. He couldn't quite crack majority-black Georgia and Mississippi, nor could he make inroads in the Democratic Strongholds of the Southwest and Appalachia, both regions that owed much to the Democratic Party of the last 24 years. The biggest story turned out to be the "New West." President Brown's infrastructure project included a massive investment in high speed rail throughout the nation, (dubbed BrownRoads) and this led to new cities and substantial population growth in the states of Montana, New Mexico, Wyoming, Idaho, and South Dakota. The growth in those states helped pad Seagull's two victories, but now all of those states (except Idaho and South Dakota) have officially gone the way of Colorado. Wyoming in particular broke nearly a century-long GOP streak to vote for the ticket of Lopez and its favorite son Marcus Smith.

The New West didn't get Lopez over the top, per se, but it helped. Without Colorado, Wyoming, and Montana, Lopez would have had to rely on his razor-thin margin in Michigan to win the Presidency.

The two parties broke even in the Senate for the first time since 1998, with Democrats trading losses in Iowa and Tennessee for gains in Oklahoma and Montana. President-elect Lopez enters office with a 60-43 majority in the Senate* (pending the appointment of a replacement for Vice President-elect Smith) and a 30-seat majority in the House of Representatives. This will also be the first time that the leaders of the House, Senate, and White House will all be of Hispanic ethnicity. The Speaker is Sonya García (D-PR) and the Senate Majority Leader is Moises Serrano (D-NC).

This election is also notable for one of its Senate races in particular. Senator-elect Sebastian Miranda (D-DC) is one of very few individuals who will be joining the US Senate at age 30.

*That wouldn't be enough to break a filibuster, but the filibuster was weakened in 2037 with bipartisan approval to actually require effort to maintain.

[Blackacre]

(prequel to 2044 post)



President Kamala Harris (D-CA)/Vice President Adam Edelen (D-KY): ~388 EVs, ~53%

Governor Josh Hawley (R-MO)/Senator Chris Sununu (R-NH): ~167 EVs, ~47%

His last name was Hawley, but he may as well be called Dewey.

The Presidential Election of 2032 was the biggest surprise in sixteen years. President Kamala Harris, widely expected to lose re-election after twelve years of Democratic control over the White House, instead won handily against Missouri Governor Josh Hawley. In the wake of the 2032 recession, President Harris proposed expanding the widely popular high-speed rail program enacted under her predecessor (dubbed BrownRoads in his honor) as well as other government stimuli. Governor Hawley tried to pin the recession on the first female President and proposed fiscal policies right out of the playbook of Paul Ryan and soon to be Former House Speaker Kristi Noem. (R-SD)

The electoral map was a strange combination of old and new. Hawley's appeal to moral conservatism got him farther than it got former Vice President Mike Pence in 2024, but it also cost him some states that would have been very winnable for a different kind of Republican, and indeed (as of 2044) have not voted Democratic since. Almost as if re-awakening an evangelical spirit from a long-dead era, he won Texas, the Twin Carolinas, Wisconsin (the state almost voted for George W. Bush twice, after all), and Nebraska's 2nd Congressional District, all Harris 2028 states (and, with the exception of South Carolina, two-time Brown states). However, he lost Pennsylvania, Illinois, New Jersey, Washington, Oregon, Connecticut, and Maine possibly because of his clinging to evangelical appeals. Then-New York Governor Aaron Seagull (R-NY) would take note of this in his 2036 bid for the Presidency.

Neither Hawley nor Senator Sununu are strangers to a high-profile loss. Hawley lost a US Senate race against Claire McCaskill in 2018, while Chris Sununu lost his Governorship in 2020. Both mastered the art of the comeback to win their current offices. It's extraordinary how far both men came, but even so, they couldn't quite make it to the top. Cultural and social conservative appeals no longer meant anything in Appalachia, which voted en mass for its economic best interest. Presidents Brown and Harris treated the region well, after all. Nor did it play well in majority-black Georgia.

Special mention should be given to four states in particular. Mississippi was the closest state in the union and very nearly gave way to Hawley's evangelical siren call. However, the state has gotten less white since the GOP last won the state in 2020, and while the state isn't majority-black yet, black voters and Appalachian whites were able to deliver the state to Harris/Edelen by .3%. New Hampshire was just as close, decided by .4%, but the state's aversion to Hawley's brand of Republicanism was outweighed by the presence of their popular Senator on the ballot. Tennessee was not close, but Harris' margin there matched her nationwide margin almost perfectly. Conservative suburbs were balanced out by a Democratic Appalachian region and Nashville. Finally, Oklahoma is the one and only Harris 2032 state that neither Harris nor President Brown had won before. It had been slower to go the way of West Virginia and Kentucky, but BrownRoads served the state well, and Harris' proposed expansion resonated with it. Campaigning from the state's popular Governor turned Senator Scott Inman (who would lose his Senate seat in 2034 and go on to become President Seagull's Secretary of Transportation in a nod to bipartisanship) didn't hurt.

Democrats took back the House, turning a 20 seat deficit into a 26 seat majority. In the Senate, Democrats picked up seats in Georgia, Minnesota, West Virginia, Mississippi, Tennessee, and Alaska, while losing Montana, for a net gain of 5. That gives them a 64 to 40 majority, regaining the filibuster-proof majority they lost in 2030.

The final thing to mention about this election is its impact on the Supreme Court, which was already 7-2 in favor of the liberals. In the second term she wasn't expected to get, President Harris would replace Justices Kagan and Alito, creating a supreme court that had 8 justices appointed by Democrats and only one, Neil Gorsuch, appointed by a Republican.

edit: changed the identity of Kamala Harris' running mate

[P. Clodius Pulcher did nothing wrong]

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Feingod(D-WI):  538 EVs
RoJo(R-WI):  0 EVs

[Unconditional Surrender Truman]

Western United States presidential election, 2016

Steve Bullock and Mark Begich (Democratic—Farmer Labor) 113 electors, 48% votes
Brian Sandoval and Susana Martinez (Republican) 71 electors, 45% votes
John Huntsman and Nathan Johnson (Deseret National) 6 electors, 5% votes
Gary Johnson and Dan Cox (Libertarian) 0 electors, 1%
Others (Various) 0 electors, 1%

[Mike Thick]

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[P. Clodius Pulcher did nothing wrong]

Volusia going D and Palm Beach going R?!?! Absolute chaos^

[President of the great nation of 🏳️‍⚧️]

1924 to present with similar House growth rates.
Part 1: 1924 to 1940

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628-10

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[JoeyOCanada]

What the?

2012

Gary Johnson (L-NM) / Bob Barr (GA) - 270 EVs
President Barack Obama (D-IL) / Vice President Joe Biden (D-DE) - 182 EVs
Mitt Romney (R-MA) / Paul Ryan (R-WI) - 86 EVs

2016

Bernie Sanders (D-VT) / Elizabeth Warren (D-MA) - 280 EVs
President Gary Johnson (L-NM) / Vice President Bob Barr (L-GA) - 175 EVs
Ted Cruz (R-TX) / Carly Fiorina (R-TX) - 83 EVs

[Blackacre]

Governor Aaron Seagull (R-NY)/Senator Austen Petersen (R-MO): ~310 EVs, ~49%

Senator Jason Kander (D-MO)/Governor Malcom Washington (D-GA): ~245 EVs, ~43%

The US Presidential election of 2036 hit so many milestones it's not even funny.

Governor Aaron Seagull was the first Republican to win a plurality of the popular vote in 32 years, and the first to win the White House in 16. He was the first Republican to ever ascend to the Presidency while losing the state of Ohio and while losing Arizona. (I think at this point Alaska and North Dakota are the only states left that no Republican has won without) He broke Minnesota's 50 year Democratic streak, and flipped states like New Jersey, Connecticut, Maine, Oregon, Washington, Virginia, and Illinois that were thought to be permanently gone for the GOP.

He broke the Democratic stranglehold over the federal government by running as a different kind of Republican. He was a northern technocratic moderate, not an evangelical firebrand Tea Partier. Despite Democratic attacks on more conservative statements he made in his youth, the electorate took Seagull at his word. After all, they were itching for a change. Missouri's junior Senator helped convince traditional conservative voters that this GOP wouldn't entirely abandon conservative priorities, which was necessary to keep the entire South from turning on him. Instead, while he did lose Appalachia and the African American-heavy states of Georgia and Mississippi, he carried the rest of the region fairly handily. He even won Virginia!

Missouri's other Senator, Jason Kander, to be fair, was the best hope the Dems had to hold onto the White House for four more years. He was an excellent campaigner, going from losing a Senate race by 3 points to serving as the state's popular Governor for 8 years, winning the same Senate seat he once lost in 2028, and even surviving the 2034 wave even while Senators like Andrew Gillum, (D-FL) Scott Inman (D-OK), and Maggie Hassan (D-NH) did not. With the Governor of Georgia by his side, he was able to turn out black voters and some working class whites to his side, but it wasn't quite enough. He did at least carry his home state by the same 4-point margin that Seagull carried the nation, and even though he lost Virginia, he kept Delaware and Maryland in his column.

On the congressional side, Democrats had a 6 seat House majority going into this race that they promptly lost. The Republicans got themselves a 10 seat majority that will prove challenging to govern with. In the Senate, Democrats thought they didn't have much room left to fail after they lost 9 seats in 2030, but hoo boy were they wrong. Not only did they fail to gain back any of the seats they lost, but they also lost seven more seats: Tennessee, Nevada, Virginia, Maine, New Jersey, Pennsylvania, and most crushingly of all, Connecticut. The Senate Majority Leader lost both his majority and his own seat. Senate Minority Leader Tom Cotton (R-AR) will get the job of Majority Leader with a 55-49 majority to work with. Senator Moises Serrano (D-NC) will lead the Democrats in opposition.

Only time will tell how this new President will do. The two Republicans who came before him, Donald Trump and George W. Bush, were both regarded very, very poorly, but he wasn't of their mould. Still, he should enjoy that congressional majority while it lasts; he'll lose both houses in two years.

edit: This also marks the very first time that Vermont and Georgia vote together for a losing candidate.

[Blackacre]

Despite nobody wanting these, here's another one!


President Aaron Seagull (R/NY)/Vice President Austen Petersen (R-MO): ~330 EVs, ~52%
Governor Naomi Brown (D-OH)/Senator Chris Hall (D-IA): ~225 EVs, ~46%

The stars aligned. Dogs and cats lived together. Up was down and down was up. That's how the political world felt when a Republican President not only won re-election, but won the popular vote twice, a feat no member of the GOP had pulled off since Reagan. This was the Presidential Election of 2040.

True, President Seagull did face some setbacks. Though he was able to weaken the Filibuster and pass some substantial legislation in his first two years, major conservative priorities like reversing gains made by unions and privatizing BrownRoads went absolutely nowhere, and contributed to him losing both houses of congress in 2038. How did Seagull go from that loss to winning re-election by 6 points? Triangulation, Bill Clinton style.

Even so, he didn't exactly get a cakewalk. Naomi Brown was a two-term Governor of one of the most Democratic states in the union: Ohio. She and four-term Senator Chris Hall knew they were fighting an uphill battle against a President with good approvals that many liberals were okay with. She knew she didn't have all that strong a chance, but she ran one of the toughest campaigns in recent memory to make Seagull fight for his second term. And in a sense, she got probably the very definition of a Moral Victory. She pushed for popular liberal policies like Universal Basic Income, defense cuts, and expanding immigration, and got Seagull to triangulate on those issues in order to win. While her policy platform didn't get her into the White House, many Democratic candidates on the Congressional level did win on those policies. And finally, her exhaustive campaign set up the infrastructure throughout the nation that New Mexico Governor Tomás Lopez would utilize to win his election four years later.

The electoral map didn't change all that much from four years ago. Without its favorite son on the ticket, Missouri returned to its default status as a Republican state. Aside from that, President Seagull traded Maine and Oklahoma for the more electoral-rich combination of NE-02 and Michigan. Alaska and Hawaii also traded places, Hawaii because of its affection for incumbents and Alaska because of a last-minute push from the Naomi Brown campaign. (this leaves North Dakota as the final state that no Republican has won without) However, Seagull did sweat a bit on election night; Michigan, Indiana, Wisconsin, Minnesota, Iowa, Illinois, and Pennsylvania were all decided by less than 3%. Had all of them gone the other way, Seagull would have lost the electoral college while still probably winning the popular vote, a grave irony for the Republican Party.

At the congressional level, not much changed. The Democrats gained about six seats in the House, increasing their majority to 30 seats. In the Senate, for the first time since 2012, both parties made gains, though some of it was a reversion to the state's new partisan identity. Democrats picked up Colorado, Oklahoma, Wisconsin, and Florida, while losing increasingly Republican Pennsylvania and Oregon. They now have a 57-47 majority in the upper chamber. Just like the 1996 Republicans, the 2040 Dems ran a "check and balance" campaign that helped them hold onto their Senators in states like New York, Illinois, North Carolina, and Missouri. Though ticket splitting did help the GOP as well, in states like Alaska and Arizona, where Seagull lost but incumbent Republican Senators survived.

[Calthrina950]

And here is another version of my earlier map, with the basic results outlined:

Alternate Timeline: Trump is Blown Out

Clearer version here: https://vignette.wikia.nocookie.net/novelas/images/c/c8/Map_of_the_2016_Election_Detailed.png/revision/latest?cb=20170907032913

President William Rutherford/Vice President Harold Ford, Jr.-63.58%-528 EV
Businessman Donald J. Trump/Governor Michael R. Pence-34.07%-10 EV

Closest States:

Margin of victory less than 5% (21 electoral votes):

West Virginia, 1.52%
Wyoming, 1.91%
Arkansas, 2.70%
Oklahoma, 4.08%

Margin of victory over 5%, but less than 10% (32 electoral votes):
Alabama, 5.61%
Kentucky, 5.93%
Tennessee, 6.20%
Idaho, 9.23%
Nebraska, 9.97%

[President of the great nation of 🏳️‍⚧️]

Noticed that 6% of Trump voters apparently regret their vote. So I gave Trump 94% of his 2016 vote total with nothing else changing.

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2016:  The Dawn of Sunshine

Fmr. Gov. Jon Hunstman Jr.(R-UT)/Senator Marco Rubio(R-FL):  355 EVs
Fmr. SOS Hillary Clinton(D-NY)/Senator Cory Booker(D-NJ):  180 EVs
Jill Stein(G-MA)/Ajamu Baraka(G-IL):  3 EVs

[President of the great nation of 🏳️‍⚧️]

1924 to present with similar House growth rates.

Part 2: 1944 to 1960

533-125

374-237-47

600-119

619-100

420-294-11

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Canada 2015:  Dawn of Summer

NDP/MP Jack Layton:  178 Seats  (37.4% PV)
Conservatives/PM Stephen Harper  84 Seats  (26.2% PV)
Liberal/MP Justin Trudeau:  69 Seats (24.4% PV) 
Bloc Québécois/Gilles Duceppe:  5 Seats (6.4% PV) 
Greens/Elizabeth May:  2 Seats  (4.2% PV)
Others:  0 Seats  (1.4% PV)


Note:  Sorry for not having a map for this, I don't have a map to make the Canadian Election on.

[Kingpoleon]

Noticed that 6% of Trump voters apparently regret their vote. So I gave Trump 94% of his 2016 vote total with nothing else changing.

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