Was Obama's Healthcare the biggest blunder & missed opportunity for a Dem?

[Mr. Smith]

While it is true that Obama's first few years were spent as a terribly optimistic negotiator against a party that saw him as the incarnation of evil, a bigger part of the blame can be put at the feet of the Democratic establishment for imposing people Joe Lieberman upon the people the people of Connecticut against the will of their own base, then they have the gall to claim "we need to be realistic, single payer is not getting passed"... of course it's not, you people made sure of that! Don't even get me started on their refusal to nuke the filibuster, which would have made all those issues moot in the first place.

Yes, that is right. It was Lieberman and Nelson who killed both the public option, and lowering the age of Medicare.

To be fair, Nelson hold Nebraska, there weren't better options.

But Lieberman over Lamont is inexcusable.

[Mr. Smith]

While it is true that Obama's first few years were spent as a terribly optimistic negotiator against a party that saw him as the incarnation of evil, a bigger part of the blame can be put at the feet of the Democratic establishment for imposing people like Joe Lieberman upon the people of Connecticut against the will of their own base, then they have the gall to claim "we need to be realistic, single payer is not getting passed"... of course it's not, you people made sure of that! Don't even get me started on their refusal to nuke the filibuster, which would have made all those issues moot in the first place, but no it can't be done they say.

Conservative Dems were always around, even during LBJ's term but he passed Medicare & Medicaid despite massive opposition, even more than Republicans with ACA ! If LBJ could do it, why not Obama ?

LBJ knew all the ins and outs before he became President, Hillary or Joe would've too.

Pity the Elector/Delegate heavy Midwest were more swayed by mere catchphrases.