Canada's Bible belts - how did they vote?
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King of Kensington
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« on: January 31, 2024, 08:06:30 PM »

Evangelicals and Other Christians by Census Division (2021 Census):

Division No 3 MB (Winkler) 68.2%
Division No 8 NF (Lewisporte) 49.2%
Division No 2 MB (Steinbach) 45.7%
Shelburne NS 37%
Carleton NB 35.6%
Division No 6 NF (Grand Falls-Windsor) 31.4%
Charlotte NB 30.5%
Queens NB 29%
Annapolis NS 28.1%
Elgin ON 26.7%
Division No 17 AB (Slave Lake) 26.1%
Albert NB 25.3%
Division No 8 MB (Theherne) 24.8%
Kings NS 24.5%
Fraser Valley BC 24.4%
Digby NS 23.1%
Yarmouth 23%
Division No 2 AB (Lethbridge) 22.7%
Haldimand-Norfolk ON 22.6%
Division No 7 NF (Bonavista) 22.3%
Peace River BC 22.1%
Division No 8 SK (Swift Current) 20.9%
Division No 5 MB (Killarney) 20.5%
Perth ON 20.3%
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« Reply #1 on: February 01, 2024, 05:59:40 PM »

Almost certainly overwhelmingly Conservative (from the few I'm familiar with or could bother to check). The ridings containing Winkler and Steinbach MB were notably strong results for the People's Party, with Portage-Lisgar (Winkler) being a (distant) second place result and leading to Max Bernier's attempt there in a by election (which did not pan out in the slightest), and Provencher (Steinbach) giving them a very close third (after another very distant second). Conservatives won both these ridings by massive margins of course.
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« Reply #2 on: February 02, 2024, 12:17:53 AM »

All strongly Conservative.  Only time weren't was in 2015 where Liberals won the one's in Nova Scotia & Newfoundland.  While swept New Brunswick. I believe Tories narrowly won the more religious parts of Tobique-Mactaquac and New Brunswick Southwest.  Kings County is only one listed on there I believe that Liberals won in 2021 while Division 6 Newfoundland, Annapolis County, and Digby County Liberals had strong second place showing.

Atlantic Canada outside New Brunswick it seems one area where Liberals still do well in areas with high Evangelical population while in New Brunswick, Ontario and West, Conservatives tend to win by lopsided margins most elections.  Division 8 in Newfoundland while somewhat competitive is typically the best one for Conservatives in province and believe got over 50% in 2021.
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« Reply #3 on: February 02, 2024, 08:39:45 AM »

Not the shock of our ages that they generally vote for the right is it.
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« Reply #4 on: February 02, 2024, 12:56:39 PM »

The PPC also did well in Bible belty-areas.  Their strongest area by far is Portage-Lisgar, which is by far the most evangelical riding in Canada.  In Ontario too they got over 10% in ridings like Haldimand-Norfolk and Chatham-Kent-Essex in 2021 where there's a higher than average number of evangelicals.
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« Reply #5 on: April 12, 2024, 02:24:45 PM »

What’s their logic for voting Conservative, when Conservative is just as pro LGBT/Abortion as the Liberals?
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« Reply #6 on: April 12, 2024, 02:39:13 PM »

What’s their logic for voting Conservative, when Conservative is just as pro LGBT/Abortion as the Liberals?
They aren't.
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« Reply #7 on: April 12, 2024, 03:53:26 PM »

What’s their logic for voting Conservative, when Conservative is just as pro LGBT/Abortion as the Liberals?
They aren't.

What pro-life/anti-LGBT policies have Canadian Conservatives been passing/pushing for?
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« Reply #8 on: April 12, 2024, 04:54:52 PM »

What’s their logic for voting Conservative, when Conservative is just as pro LGBT/Abortion as the Liberals?
They aren't.

What pro-life/anti-LGBT policies have Canadian Conservatives been passing/pushing for?
Brian Mulroney came a few votes away from banning almost all elective abortions in the 1980s. The CPC caucus voted almost unanimously against the Civil Marriage Act. Conservative MPs often talk about their opposition to abortion and same-sex marriage. To say the CPC and the LPC are identical on these issues is straight wrong.

It's true, the last time the Conservatives were in power they did not pass meaningful anti-abortion or anti-LGBT policies, and that is because it would be politically moronic. As PM Harper did allow for a vote to reverse gay marriage (as a means to stop talking about an obvious political loser), which failed. When Poilievre is PM, I expect him to not visit the issue even if his majority is as big as polls say it will be, because it is a massive loser. But for pro-life and anti-LGBT voters, they know the Conservatives are far more likely to be their friend, and the best way they can push the party to the right is by staying within it.
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« Reply #9 on: April 13, 2024, 04:43:03 AM »

What’s their logic for voting Conservative, when Conservative is just as pro LGBT/Abortion as the Liberals?
They aren't.

What pro-life/anti-LGBT policies have Canadian Conservatives been passing/pushing for?
Brian Mulroney came a few votes away from banning almost all elective abortions in the 1980s. The CPC caucus voted almost unanimously against the Civil Marriage Act. Conservative MPs often talk about their opposition to abortion and same-sex marriage. To say the CPC and the LPC are identical on these issues is straight wrong.

It's true, the last time the Conservatives were in power they did not pass meaningful anti-abortion or anti-LGBT policies, and that is because it would be politically moronic. As PM Harper did allow for a vote to reverse gay marriage (as a means to stop talking about an obvious political loser), which failed. When Poilievre is PM, I expect him to not visit the issue even if his majority is as big as polls say it will be, because it is a massive loser. But for pro-life and anti-LGBT voters, they know the Conservatives are far more likely to be their friend, and the best way they can push the party to the right is by staying within it.

I would’ve expected Canada’s multi-party, parliamentary government would make it easier for such Evangelicals to form their own political party and make a coalition with whatever larger parties it wanted.
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« Reply #10 on: April 13, 2024, 06:39:18 AM »

Canada still uses FPTP though, there as elsewhere a real barrier to such things.
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« Reply #11 on: April 13, 2024, 03:32:26 PM »

What’s their logic for voting Conservative, when Conservative is just as pro LGBT/Abortion as the Liberals?
They aren't.

What pro-life/anti-LGBT policies have Canadian Conservatives been passing/pushing for?
Brian Mulroney came a few votes away from banning almost all elective abortions in the 1980s. The CPC caucus voted almost unanimously against the Civil Marriage Act. Conservative MPs often talk about their opposition to abortion and same-sex marriage. To say the CPC and the LPC are identical on these issues is straight wrong.

It's true, the last time the Conservatives were in power they did not pass meaningful anti-abortion or anti-LGBT policies, and that is because it would be politically moronic. As PM Harper did allow for a vote to reverse gay marriage (as a means to stop talking about an obvious political loser), which failed. When Poilievre is PM, I expect him to not visit the issue even if his majority is as big as polls say it will be, because it is a massive loser. But for pro-life and anti-LGBT voters, they know the Conservatives are far more likely to be their friend, and the best way they can push the party to the right is by staying within it.

I would’ve expected Canada’s multi-party, parliamentary government would make it easier for such Evangelicals to form their own political party and make a coalition with whatever larger parties it wanted.
If Canada had proportional representation then the CHP probably would have actually gone somewhere.
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