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Boris
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« on: July 23, 2007, 08:12:34 PM »

Biden and Gravel were easily the most entertaining. The former especially with the gun comment and Kucinich's wife.

I did like Hillary's answer to the Bush-Clinton-Bush-Clinton, however. I've been very impressed with her performances in the debates.

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Boris
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« Reply #1 on: July 23, 2007, 08:18:14 PM »

CNN did some kind of poll of crowd members...apparently Hillary was crushed.

Yeah, judging by the amount of applause, I think most of the people in the crowd were Obama fans.
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Boris
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« Reply #2 on: July 23, 2007, 09:46:04 PM »
« Edited: July 23, 2007, 10:35:03 PM by Boris »

So, here's a question:  What did people think of the debate format?

I liked it a lot. Having actual people ask the questions seems far more personal than having a news anchor asking a bunch of softballs compiled by the CPD. It'd be nice if they could use the same format in the actual 2008 Presidential Debates. It probably would at least increase viewership and interest.
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Boris
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« Reply #3 on: July 24, 2007, 03:16:34 PM »

* Clinton is trash. "Liberal has come to mean Big Government instead of freedom ... progressive is a good American word..." What the fuck? This is what passes for progressivism in the US?

She was merely commenting on how the Republicans have basically turned 'liberal' into a dirty word that means big government, high taxes, weak national defense, etc. Whether or not those descriptors are a good thing or not is of course debateable, but you can't deny that that's what 'liberal' means in America and that also is why the term 'progressive' is now popular. Although I still say that both are meaningless, one-dimensional terms, but whatever.

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Agreed.

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His totally missed the point on the gun control question. What a dolt.

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Which is why Gravel and Kucinich combine for a whopping 1% of the base's support? The 'mainstream' candidates are hardly out of touch with the country:

*They support withdrawal from Iraq, as does most of the country.
*They oppose gay marriage, as does most of the country.
*Two out of three candidates with a shot at winning the nomination supported the war in Iraq, as did most of the country.
*They are pro-choice, as is most of the country.
*They favor combating Global Warming, as does most of the country.
*They support Israel, as does most of the country.

Seriously, on what issues are they out of touch with the country on? Perhaps Universal Healthcare, but I've seen contradictory polls.
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