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« on: April 29, 2024, 11:09:55 AM »

Who gets the bigger landslide? Labour in the UK or the Canadian Conservatives
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« Reply #1 on: April 29, 2024, 03:32:53 PM »

I think some version of this question has been asked at least 5 times on the forum already, but it seems like UK Labour has a stronger lead over the Tories than CPC does over LPC.
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« Reply #2 on: April 29, 2024, 06:33:01 PM »

Definitely the UK.

The Liberals in Canada seem to have a higher floor, especially given how well they've done in spite of losing the popular vote twice in a row.
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« Reply #3 on: April 30, 2024, 08:50:41 AM »

If you just mean *numerically* bigger, then the UK having nearly twice as many MPs is significant.
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« Reply #4 on: April 30, 2024, 02:02:07 PM »

Labour for sure
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« Reply #5 on: April 30, 2024, 03:06:34 PM »

Definitely the UK.

The Liberals in Canada seem to have a higher floor, especially given how well they've done in spite of losing the popular vote twice in a row.

Not really, they are only expected to get around 60-65 seats so the real question is can the Tories in the UK get more than 120-130
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« Reply #6 on: April 30, 2024, 04:41:06 PM »

UK but I expect in both countries to see governing parties recover somewhat.  I think Tories in UK get at least 150 seats and maybe over 200 seats.  Many who always vote Conservative but upset probably return as Tories not polling any lower than John Major was in late 1996.

In case of Canada, I am not sure Poilievre will win at all.  People upset with Trudeau, but Poilievre has lots of baggage so while likely wins most seats, I could easily see Conservatives in Canada falling short of a majority.  Loads of wedge issues Liberals can use that could work in their favor. 
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« Reply #7 on: May 01, 2024, 07:24:01 AM »

UK. I don't even think Poilievre will win at all, particularly if Trump gets elected this November.
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« Reply #8 on: May 01, 2024, 07:26:25 AM »

Canada.

I haven't seen one good word on the Canadian Prime Minister online with this carbon tax.
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« Reply #9 on: May 01, 2024, 03:22:02 PM »

Canada.

I haven't seen one good word on the Canadian Prime Minister online with this carbon tax.

OK, let me be the first. It's a bad policy electorally, but it's good for me. It's money in my pocket during tax season, as I choose not to drive.
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« Reply #10 on: May 05, 2024, 07:22:16 AM »

UK. I don't even think Poilievre will win at all, particularly if Trump gets elected this November.

Huh? They’re clear of LPC by 20 points.

The one thing LPC has on its side that Conservatives don’t have is time - a whole extra year to change things. I think Trudeau is gone by years end to give a new leader a shot at recovering.
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« Reply #11 on: May 05, 2024, 07:32:35 AM »

UK. I don't even think Poilievre will win at all, particularly if Trump gets elected this November.

Huh? They’re clear of LPC by 20 points.

The one thing LPC has on its side that Conservatives don’t have is time - a whole extra year to change things. I think Trudeau is gone by years end to give a new leader a shot at recovering.

A Trump victory in November changes everything.
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« Reply #12 on: May 05, 2024, 07:35:47 AM »

UK. I don't even think Poilievre will win at all, particularly if Trump gets elected this November.
Doomer about everything except Canada. Kind of chad tbh.

That said, I'm also anticipating '24 Labour to get a bigger landslide than the '25 Tories.
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« Reply #13 on: May 09, 2024, 12:17:39 PM »

UK. I don't even think Poilievre will win at all, particularly if Trump gets elected this November.

Huh? They’re clear of LPC by 20 points.

The one thing LPC has on its side that Conservatives don’t have is time - a whole extra year to change things. I think Trudeau is gone by years end to give a new leader a shot at recovering.
there likely next leader is a liberal verison of liz truss
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« Reply #14 on: May 09, 2024, 12:18:19 PM »

UK. I don't even think Poilievre will win at all, particularly if Trump gets elected this November.

Huh? They’re clear of LPC by 20 points.

The one thing LPC has on its side that Conservatives don’t have is time - a whole extra year to change things. I think Trudeau is gone by years end to give a new leader a shot at recovering.

A Trump victory in November changes everything.
polls show that the canadian people perfer pierre to deal with trump by a ten point margin
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« Reply #15 on: May 09, 2024, 02:49:45 PM »

UK. I don't even think Poilievre will win at all, particularly if Trump gets elected this November.

Huh? They’re clear of LPC by 20 points.

The one thing LPC has on its side that Conservatives don’t have is time - a whole extra year to change things. I think Trudeau is gone by years end to give a new leader a shot at recovering.
there likely next leader is a liberal verison of liz truss

Liz Truss herself then? 
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« Reply #16 on: May 10, 2024, 02:20:55 AM »

UK. I don't even think Poilievre will win at all, particularly if Trump gets elected this November.

Huh? They’re clear of LPC by 20 points.

The one thing LPC has on its side that Conservatives don’t have is time - a whole extra year to change things. I think Trudeau is gone by years end to give a new leader a shot at recovering.
there likely next leader is a liberal verison of liz truss

At the current rate, it's pretty unlikely they will end up electing a leader with a seat outside Quebec. Freeland seems the most plausible possibility of those currently in Parliament and outside Quebec, but even her seat is quite vulnerable.
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« Reply #17 on: May 10, 2024, 10:21:32 AM »

UK. I don't even think Poilievre will win at all, particularly if Trump gets elected this November.

Huh? They’re clear of LPC by 20 points.

The one thing LPC has on its side that Conservatives don’t have is time - a whole extra year to change things. I think Trudeau is gone by years end to give a new leader a shot at recovering.
there likely next leader is a liberal verison of liz truss

Liz Truss herself then? 

What you did there, I saw it.
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« Reply #18 on: May 10, 2024, 01:51:37 PM »

UK is more in line with polling, but I will say that Canadian politics tend to be much more volatile -- I could see a surprising Canada win on this since voters there tend to be much more mutable.
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« Reply #19 on: May 11, 2024, 04:14:55 AM »

Canada.

I haven't seen one good word on the Canadian Prime Minister online with this carbon tax.

OK, let me be the first. It's a bad policy electorally, but it's good for me. It's money in my pocket during tax season, as I choose not to drive.

Ditto here btw haha
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« Reply #20 on: May 11, 2024, 11:23:00 AM »

UK is more in line with polling, but I will say that Canadian politics tend to be much more volatile -- I could see a surprising Canada win on this since voters there tend to be much more mutable.

I can see the polls maybe narrowing a bit, but a Liberal win now would frankly be pretty amazing.
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« Reply #21 on: May 11, 2024, 12:37:43 PM »

UK is more in line with polling, but I will say that Canadian politics tend to be much more volatile -- I could see a surprising Canada win on this since voters there tend to be much more mutable.

I can see the polls maybe narrowing a bit, but a Liberal win now would frankly be pretty amazing.

Oh, I meant Canada winning the contest of "biggest landslide." Sorry, ambiguous.
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« Reply #22 on: May 11, 2024, 11:56:47 PM »

UK is more in line with polling, but I will say that Canadian politics tend to be much more volatile -- I could see a surprising Canada win on this since voters there tend to be much more mutable.

Crazy enough, the Progressive Conservatives were leading in the polls just 1 1/2 months before they got destroyed in 1993.
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