Third Term Elections if no 22nd amendment

[OSR stands with Israel]

Since there is no 22nd amendment lets say all the two term presidents run for a third term

1952- Truman vs Eisenhower

Truman- 84
Eisnhower- 447

1960- Eisenhower vs Kennedy

Eisenhower- 270
JFK- 267

1988- Reagan vs Dukakis

Reagan- 462
Dukakis-  76

2000- Clinton vs Bush

Clinton- 339
Bush- 199


2008- Bush vs Obama

Obama - 438
Bush - 100

[Attorney General & PPT Dwarven Dragon]

for the 2008 scenario, Bush would have carried AR, LA, TN, and WV. There's enough voters there who would vote for him (Bush) to "stop the black!" to deliver those states.

[Antonio the Sixth]

Truman could have run in 1952. He chose not to.

[Oldiesfreak1854]

for the 2008 scenario, Bush would have carried AR, LA, TN, and WV. There's enough voters there who would vote for him (Bush) to "stop the black!" to deliver those states.

Not true.  Those states were trending GOP before Obama, and swung to the right in 2008 and 2012 because of Democrats' perceived hostility to coal.  Grimes' relatively weak performance in eastern Kentucky is evidence of that.

[Oldiesfreak1854]

1960

Pres. Dwight D. Eisenhower (R-PA)/Vice Pres. Richard Nixon (R-CA): 416
Sen. John F. Kennedy (D-MA)/Sen. Lyndon B. Johnson (D-TX): 113
Unpledged Democratic Electors: 8

1988

Pres. Ronald Reagan (R-CA)/Vice Pres. George HW Bush (R-TX): 452
Gov. Michael Dukakis (D-MA)/Sen. Lloyd Bentsen (D-TX): 86

2000

Pres. Bill Clinton (D-AR)/Vice Pres. Al Gore: 430
Gov. George W. Bush (R-TX)/Fmr. Rep. Dick Cheney (R-WY): 108

2008

Sen. Barack Obama (D-IL)/Sen. Joe Biden (D-DE): 449
Pres. George W. Bush (R-TX)/Vice Pres. Dick Cheney: 82

[bobloblaw]

In 2008, Bush would have carried TN, AR, LA and GA. Possibly MT, MO ,AZ and NC as well. I dont see how in the world you give WV to Obama.

Bush would have run a better campaign than McCain did.


In 2000, I am not certain that Clinton would have carried FL. Bush in 2000 actually did proportionally worse with Jewish voters than Dole did in 1996 (proportionaly meaning relative to the improvement in the overall popular vote). Leibermann did make a difference in FL for Gore.

[Oldiesfreak1854]

In 2008, Bush would have carried TN, AR, LA and GA. Possibly MT, MO ,AZ and NC as well. I dont see how in the world you give WV to Obama.

Bush would have run a better campaign than McCain did.


In 2000, I am not certain that Clinton would have carried FL. Bush in 2000 actually did proportionally worse with Jewish voters than Dole did in 1996 (proportionaly meaning relative to the improvement in the overall popular vote). Leibermann did make a difference in FL for Gore.

Clinton carried AR, LA, and WV twice, and GA once.  Obama probably would've beaten Bush in Georgia due to his strength with black and a significant number of white turning against Bush.  In 2008, Bush was so unpopular that his job approval was underwater in all but two or three states (all in the Mountain West).  And Clinton would've carried FL in 2000, because he was so massively popular that he would've taken almost any state that could conceivably be close.

[bobloblaw]

In 2008, Bush would have carried TN, AR, LA and GA. Possibly MT, MO ,AZ and NC as well. I dont see how in the world you give WV to Obama.

Bush would have run a better campaign than McCain did.


In 2000, I am not certain that Clinton would have carried FL. Bush in 2000 actually did proportionally worse with Jewish voters than Dole did in 1996 (proportionaly meaning relative to the improvement in the overall popular vote). Leibermann did make a difference in FL for Gore.

Clinton carried AR, LA, and WV twice, and GA once.  Obama probably would've beaten Bush in Georgia due to his strength with black and a significant number of white turning against Bush.  In 2008, Bush was so unpopular that his job approval was underwater in all but two or three states (all in the Mountain West).  And Clinton would've carried FL in 2000, because he was so massively popular that he would've taken almost any state that could conceivably be close.

Turnout in GA for the Dems was maximized in 2008. GA is a state that is still dominated by Evangelicals, Huckabee won in 2008 in the GOP primary. If anything I can see a lot of evangelicals not voting for McCain in 2008 but voting for Bush. I live in GA, I dont believe that Obama would have carried it in 2008 versus Bush.

Clinton's 1998-2000 popularity was based on the economy soley. His personal approval rating was under 50%. He would have won, but I wouldnt automatically give him FL.

[Mr. Smith]

1960: Eisenhower vs Kennedy

Dwight D. Eisenhower (R-PA)/Richard M. Nixon (R-CA): 357
John F. Kennedy (D-MA)/Lyndon B. Johnson (D-TX): 172
Unpledged: 8

1988: Reagan vs. Dukakis

Ronald W. Reagan (R-CA)/George H.W. Bush (R-TX): 418
Michael Dukakis (D-MA)/Lloyd Bentsen (D-TX): 120

2000: Clinton vs. G.W. Bush

William J. Clinton (D-AR)/Albert A. Gore, Jr (D-TN): 358
George W. Bush (R-TX)/Richard C. Cheney (R-WY): 180

2008: G.W. Bush vs Obama

Barack H. Obama (D-IL)/Joseph R. Biden (D-DE): 401
George W. Bush (R-TX)/Richard C. Cheney (R-WY): 137

[bobloblaw]

Why does Reagan lose IL in 1988, when Bush won it in 1988?

KY and TN would have gone to Bush in 2000 over Clinton.

It is ABSURD to think Obama would have carried MT KY or GA over Bush in 2008