The “Who is running in 2020?” tea leaves thread, Part 3

[wbrocks67]

I think a lot of the media and Dem politicians learned the wrong lesson from 2016 and think that a white man will have it easier than another woman. Hillary didn't lose because she is a woman but because she generated little excitement in the base, was toxic to independents and ran one of the most arrogant and lazy campaigns I've ever seen from a Dem presidential candidate. Another woman won't have those issues.

I agree with your post in regards to how another woman wouldn't necessarily be a repeat of Clinton's loss from 2016. But I disagree that her campaign was lazy or arrogant. It was done in by a perfect storm of factors, ones mostly beyond her control. Lessons should still be learned from it, of course.

Agreed. There were about 10 different factors of why HRC lost. Some were in her control, some out of it. I *will* say though, I don't think her campaign got lazy or arrogant, per say, but I remember thinking it was really annoying how Trump would do like 3 rallies a day and be everywhere, and she'd only do like 1. The next candidate really needs to be on their grind, Beto-style, non-stop for every single vote, and take nothing for granted anywhere. It's clear, unfortunately, that they took Wisconsin and Michigan for granted.

[wbrocks67]

What is the likelihood of recent reports that Sanders will run again? I just pray to god not.

[wbrocks67]

When should we expect people to start announcing? After the new year? Crazy that the first Dem debate is, what, only 8-9 months away?

[wbrocks67]

It's very obvious that as it stands now, Beto would go into the primary as the "enthusiasm" candidate.

[wbrocks67]

Steyer needs to say away. Same with Avenatti (think that's done now, thank god) and Bernie.

[wbrocks67]

Gabbard was  in New Hampshire today, and was asked about 2020.  She said that she’s “seriously considering” a presidential run, but has no specific decision timeline in mind right now:

https://www.civilbeat.org/2018/12/tulsi-gabbard-for-president-i-am-seriously-considering-it/

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Gabbard would legit be the worst Dem nominee in years. She's horrific.

[wbrocks67]

A Biden/Beto ticket in *theory* is an amazing idea, but when you start thinking about the Democratic base and it being two White men, then it becomes a not great idea.

[wbrocks67]

I love Casey but it's just not gonna happen.

Also, I can't believe we are ALREADY starting with the purity tests again. Bernie Bros are the worst.

[wbrocks67]

NYT on how Bernie staffers and endorsers are dispersing to various candidates like Beto, Brown and Warren.

I'd be really surprised if Warren doesn't see the writing on the wall. It's just not gonna happen. Same with Brown.

[wbrocks67]

We all know HRC is not running and like others have said, need to stop encouraging this clickbait trash. Zeleny knows full well that she's not running and it's annoying he's trying to stir s*** up with his "sources."

[wbrocks67]

It's pretty clear pundits are really trying to hype up the "HRC is running~~~~~" narrative. It's definitively clear that she's not but they'd love to keep that narrative going.