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« on: August 14, 2007, 04:57:18 PM »

Although the polls in CO usually favor GOPers by 3 or 4 points. This probably means that Thompson is gonna get beat in CO and that Guiliani is going to win by 46-53.

I don't think so!  Fred Thompson isn't even in the race yet, and he's already tied with the already well known Clinton.  In most states Romney and Thompson are running behind Clinton.  The fact that these two unknowns are actually tied with Hillary in Colorado tells me that the GOP should be spending their time on the senate race--not the POTUS race.  The GOP could win Colorado by ten points and still lose the senate race....

Thompson an unknown? Maybe if you were making this argument in April...
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« Reply #1 on: August 14, 2007, 05:34:11 PM »

Although the polls in CO usually favor GOPers by 3 or 4 points. This probably means that Thompson is gonna get beat in CO and that Guiliani is going to win by 46-53.

I don't think so!  Fred Thompson isn't even in the race yet, and he's already tied with the already well known Clinton.  In most states Romney and Thompson are running behind Clinton.  The fact that these two unknowns are actually tied with Hillary in Colorado tells me that the GOP should be spending their time on the senate race--not the POTUS race.  The GOP could win Colorado by ten points and still lose the senate race....

Thompson an unknown? Maybe if you were making this argument in April...

Among the low-information type swing voters who usually decide at the last minute, his name recognition approaches 0%.

...In which case polls won't change as they get to know him anyway.
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« Reply #2 on: August 15, 2007, 10:37:52 PM »

Why would they hate Hillary but not Udall? Was it because of Hillary care?

It's just not a populist state, and the Clintons are populists.
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« Reply #3 on: August 16, 2007, 12:01:56 AM »

Why would they hate Hillary but not Udall? Was it because of Hillary care?

It's just not a populist state, and the Clintons are populists.

What do you mean by "populist"? Big Government Social Conservative idelogy or just the political style?

Because Udall is no less liberal than Clinton....but appears to work on issues like the environment and sportsmen while Hillary is more interested in violent video games (probably why so many don't like her) and health care.

The political style, not the upper-left political ideology (though Clinton has a bit of that, too). The Clintons have always been about big, cheering crowds who weren't enthusiastic because of the issues, just because it was the Clintons they were cheering. Gore wasn't about that, nor Kerry, and they did much better than Bill Clinton in Colorado. Bush 43 has some of that, but Dole certainly didn't, and Bush 41 also didn't.

Of course, that suggests that populism is generally a winning strategy, just not in Colorado, an assessment I can agree with.
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