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A18
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« on: November 14, 2005, 02:15:38 PM »

Interesting. Of course, the parties and candidates would be totally different if this happened.
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A18
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« Reply #1 on: November 14, 2005, 06:08:38 PM »

First of all, not all 11 states would have left. Several broke off in retaliation to Lincoln's call for troops. They weren't going to fight fellow southerners.

Second, I don't think it's fair to say that remaining states would break off. So long as the Union continued to serve the interests of the people, no such thing would happen. It might even have the benefit of discouraging factionism, to the extent that there is doubt.
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A18
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« Reply #2 on: November 14, 2005, 08:21:16 PM »

What federal measure? No federal measure pertaining to slavery or abortion would be constitutional, and none was attempted until after the Civil War.
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A18
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« Reply #3 on: November 15, 2005, 12:53:40 PM »

What federal measure? No federal measure pertaining to slavery or abortion would be constitutional, and none was attempted until after the Civil War.

But fear of them is what ultimately led to the seperation, wasn't it?

I would disagree with that assessment. Most of the battle was about the spread of slavery into the territories. Lincoln himself made it very clear he had no intention to interfere with slavery in the South, and even endorsed a constitutional amendment that would prohibit any future amendment giving the Congress the power to interfere with the domestic institutions of any state.
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A18
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« Reply #4 on: November 15, 2005, 05:14:47 PM »

As I noted, Lincoln himself made it very clear he had no intention to interfere with slavery in the South, and even endorsed a constitutional amendment that would prohibit any future amendment giving the Congress the power to interfere with the domestic institutions of any state (which passed Congress).
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