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« on: September 25, 2015, 03:49:36 PM »

Well, of course, this is a continuum. In Girona they have already achieved, I think, the situation, when, at least the young, speak Castillian well as a foreign language. The attitudes are increasingly very non-Spanish. Of course, there are parts of Catalonia where there is more of a Spanish feeling - and, of course, there are many people from other parts of Spain living in Catalonia. Of course, almost all Catalans  I know refer to those as "immigrants" Smiley

The interesting thing is what is next. Balearics and Valencia, of course, are Catalan-speaking. Without Catalonia (and Basque country?), Spain would be much more Castillian, which may cause them to feel marginalized. Even though today the Catalan feeling there is relatively soft, it may well get strengthened.
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« Reply #1 on: September 27, 2015, 12:27:09 PM »

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In some colleges in Tarragona, the high turnout means there are no more envelops, so the electoral authorities are requesting to have more sent pronto. This is pretty cool, honestly.

High immigrant turnout Smiley
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« Reply #2 on: September 27, 2015, 01:07:35 PM »

Exit poll:

JxSi 63-66
C's 19-21
PSC 14-16
CSP 12-14
CUP 11-13
PP 9-11
Uniķ 0-3

This is even more interesting than the last polls Smiley
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« Reply #3 on: September 27, 2015, 02:55:08 PM »
« Edited: September 27, 2015, 02:58:07 PM by ag »

So far, with 56.37% of precincts reporting

JxSi 62 seats, 39.4% vote
C     25 seats, 17.88% vote
PSC 17 seats, 13.4% vote
PP    11 seats, 8.43% vote
CSP 10 seats, 8.95% vote
CUP 10 seats, 7.92% vote
UDC 0 seats, 2.34% vote

turnout 77.03%

http://elecciones.lavanguardia.com/catalanas/2015/resultados-cataluna-ccaa/
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« Reply #4 on: September 27, 2015, 03:24:33 PM »

So far, with 82.93% of precincts reporting

JxSi 63 seats, 39.36% vote
C     25 seats, 17.94% vote
PSC 16 seats, 13.00 vote
PP    11 seats, 8.46% vote
CSP 10 seats, 9.00% vote
CUP 10 seats, 8.12% vote
UDC 0 seats, 2.44% vote

turnout 77.32%

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« Reply #5 on: September 27, 2015, 03:30:38 PM »

With 86.53% of precincts reporting

JxSi 62 seats, 39.40% vote
C     25 seats, 17.97% vote
PSC 16 seats, 12.94% vote
CSP 11 seats, 8.97% vote
PP    11 seats, 8.48% vote
CUP 10 seats, 8.12% vote
UDC 0 seats, 2.46% vote

turnout 77.37%
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« Reply #6 on: September 27, 2015, 11:39:54 PM »

With 86.53% of precincts reporting

JxSi 62 seats, 39.40% vote
C     25 seats, 17.97% vote
PSC 16 seats, 12.94% vote
CSP 11 seats, 8.97% vote
PP    11 seats, 8.48% vote
CUP 10 seats, 8.12% vote
UDC 0 seats, 2.46% vote

turnout 77.37%


Stupid, obvious question: Where do all the parties stand on independence vs autonomy?

JxSi: Obviously pro-independence
C: Obviously anti-independence but what's its stand on autonomy?
PSC: I'm guessing in favor of the status quo
PP: Anti-autonomy?
CUP: Obviously pro-indendence
CSP: Cop out "whatever the people want"
UDC: I have no idea, are they for full independence or just autonomy?

Autonomy, in Spanish context, has a clear meaning. Nobody can argue against Autonomy - Spanish state is a collection of Autonomies. PP voters might dislike it and C voters might not care for it, but it is not a point that is being discussed.

From what I understand, both PP (certainly) and C are against further autonomy (and would prefer the current one to be somewhat less pronounced). All the rest are, broadly, Catalanist and would be happy with increased autonomy. This is even true of the PSC, at least at the leadership level - there is a reason why it is not merely the local branch of PSOE. The only parties that could be called "non-Catalanist" are PP and C.
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