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« on: December 02, 2016, 05:08:48 PM »

Great, encouraging sign for Jews, the single group that trended most Democratic in the 2016 election. It would be truly shameful if Ellison won this, turning the Democratic Party into the next UK Labour where anti-Jewish sentiments are actively being promoted by the leadership. Just what we need in these times of uncertainty. Of course, an anti-Jewish turn in the Democratic Party was to be expected given the developments on college campuses, but if Hillary Clinton had been elected, the process could at least have been slowed down.

Both are deplorable, but I'd prefer Bannon over Ellison and it's not even close.

True than he has the ultimate sin, being Muslim.

No the ultimate sin is he is a socialist  .

Lol.

I don't think you know what that word means.
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« Reply #1 on: December 03, 2016, 02:30:08 PM »

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« Reply #2 on: February 25, 2017, 07:46:28 PM »

Berniecrats in this thread:

"Wah, wah, the candidate I liked more 'cause muh tone and symbols lost the fundraising and electoral strategizing role to someone I don't like cause muh neolibrals."

GMAFB
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« Reply #3 on: February 25, 2017, 08:37:25 PM »

Bernie Bros -sour grapes and sore losers.

Goodbye punk.  Keep insulting people.  It will surely help you win elections.  Pathetic.

Oh, I'm so sorry, did you Bernie Bros somehow feel entitled to this position?

Drop the namecalling, Islamaphobe.

Roll Eyes
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« Reply #4 on: February 26, 2017, 12:33:23 AM »

Still can't believe how our True Leftist (is that better?) friends are hyperventilating over this.

I'm not surprised; you seem to think that everything is fine.

Everything. Is. Not. Fine.

No one sane believes that everything is fine. But many people don't think that turning the democratic party into an ideologically pure true leftisttm only club is the solution. The party's main problem is a horrific lack of organization, not people who don't agree perfectly with the berniecrats.
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« Reply #5 on: February 26, 2017, 01:06:37 AM »

Still can't believe how our True Leftist (is that better?) friends are hyperventilating over this.

I'm not surprised; you seem to think that everything is fine.

Everything. Is. Not. Fine.

No one sane believes that everything is fine. But many people don't think that turning the democratic party into an ideologically pure true leftisttm only club is the solution. The party's main problem is a horrific lack of organization, not people who don't agree perfectly with the berniecrats.

Electing Ellison as DNC chair certainly wouldn't do that. But it would have given some amount of power to progressives, versus the zero they currently have in the party. But instead they elected someone who got thrown off the ballot because he wasn't qualified when he ran for public office. Like that guy is going to solve the horrific lack of organization problem.

Progressives have quite the voice in the party. Ellison only lost by a hair. And what I was talking about previously is more people like you in the base who get outraged whenever a faction of the party that isn't your own gets a win and want to purge the party of those the berniecrats have decided are enemies.
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« Reply #6 on: February 26, 2017, 01:01:23 PM »

Still can't believe how our True Leftist (is that better?) friends are hyperventilating over this.

I'm not surprised; you seem to think that everything is fine.

Everything. Is. Not. Fine.

No one sane believes that everything is fine. But many people don't think that turning the democratic party into an ideologically pure true leftisttm only club is the solution. The party's main problem is a horrific lack of organization, not people who don't agree perfectly with the berniecrats.

Electing Ellison as DNC chair certainly wouldn't do that. But it would have given some amount of power to progressives, versus the zero they currently have in the party. But instead they elected someone who got thrown off the ballot because he wasn't qualified when he ran for public office. Like that guy is going to solve the horrific lack of organization problem.

Progressives have quite the voice in the party. Ellison only lost by a hair. And what I was talking about previously is more people like you in the base who get outraged whenever a faction of the party that isn't your own gets a win and want to purge the party of those the berniecrats have decided are enemies.

3rd way has repeatedly thrown progressives under the bus, claiming they knew better. Well, the Democrats lost a lot of seats under Obama. Then with the 2016 primary, the myth of the Bernie Bro, English only chants, chair throwing, and other lies propagated threw the corporate media were use to take down progressives. The DNC started a new cold war to distract people from the Wikileaks e-mails that showed how terrible they were. Hillary declared we will never have single payer. It's clear that 3rd way isn't interested in compromising with progressives, but just like to claim they're their adults while they run the party into the ground.

Progressives like me don't have a voice. A candidate who bent over backwards for Hillary people, had the support of many Hillary people, backed off from his plan to ban corporate money still lost. They wouldn't even give us that. Of course if Ellison had won, the party leadership would mostly be terrible, but we'd have something at the table. Now we have no power and have no reason to work with the abusers that run the Democratic party.

The party specifically made Ellison vice-chair to pander to you people. Hillary turned her platform into a true leftist wet dream. Just a few examples.
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« Reply #7 on: February 26, 2017, 08:55:05 PM »

No, she talked about how Dangerous Donald was mean, she works hard, and how it's her turn.

contrary to public myth, she has talked a whole lot about jobs and specific plans to bring jobs to communities.

As long as we're re-litigating the primary (which is dumb and stupid and not what this is about); NO!

Here are the 10 most aired ads

Of the 6 run by Clinton
1) Trump mocked disabled people
2) Trump isn't reliable with Nukes
3) HRC cares about our kids in unspecific ways
4) Trump is so bad Republicans should vote for Hillary
5) HRC loves our kids so they should have jobs and go to school
6) Trump shouldn't be president because he's sexist.

NONE of those are running on the platform she agreed to. NONE of them involve specific policies. Only two of them are positive at all.  

I don't know who people thought they were fooling with the platform. No one reads party platforms or follows party platforms. And yet the Bernie side still lost most of its fights over the party platform. Are we supposed to be excited that unlike the Hillary, the Democratic platform called for reinstating Glass Steagall? Well, so did the Republican platform.

Making donalds horrific lack of qualifications, general insanity, etc the focus of the campaign isn't the evil thing you make it out to be. It was a tactical mistake. A tactical mistake made by one campaign does not equal a deep ideological flaw in the party. The modern democrats biggest flaws are in tactics and organization, not muh establishment. PS the republican platform called for many horrific things. Don't compare random little elements of two platforms as if that makes them exactly the same. The democratic platform was focused on your wings ideas. The republican platform was focused on disgusting garbage.
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