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Ben Kenobi
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« on: April 30, 2016, 07:35:32 AM »

Why do all of these predictions have West Virginia for Trump?
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Ben Kenobi
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« Reply #1 on: April 30, 2016, 07:39:26 AM »

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Given that the only 2 West Virginians that I know are vastly in the tank for Cruz? I don't see it.
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Ben Kenobi
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« Reply #2 on: April 30, 2016, 07:42:25 AM »

Well, if you can find me a poll of West Virginia....
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Ben Kenobi
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« Reply #3 on: May 01, 2016, 11:42:29 AM »

February 22, 2016

With Trump at 40 and Rubio/Carson still in the race. Interesting, but useless.
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Ben Kenobi
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« Reply #4 on: May 01, 2016, 06:18:30 PM »

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I'd do a siggy bet. Since y'all are asserting a Trump +10 or whatevs - Trump winning by less that 60 percent, or Cruz winning, I win, else you win.
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Ben Kenobi
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« Reply #5 on: May 01, 2016, 06:45:40 PM »

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I hadn't seen a West Virginia poll. Is it really so unbelievable that WV which is pretty conservative would go Cruz?
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Ben Kenobi
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« Reply #6 on: May 01, 2016, 07:27:12 PM »

And yet, my delegate totals were correct. Wink

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I suggest you answer my question. Oh, and Trump won KY, and TN because of the vote split between Cruz/Rubio.
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Ben Kenobi
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« Reply #7 on: May 01, 2016, 07:51:12 PM »

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I made my predictions back in February and said Trump would be around 1k in the delegates, I was closer than 538, and made correct calls in WI. Wink

So again, you're harping on a state that I awarded to Trump, said would be solid Trump and it went that way.

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Thank you.

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*sigh*. He won VA, KY and lost in Ohio. He's not a strong nominee by any stretch of the name. A weak nominee like Romney would have wrapped it up with OH and FL. He did not. A weak nominee like Romney would have finished him off in WI, and not need it to go to NY, Trump needed that.

I get what you're saying, but I just don't see the core faith in WV must go Trump other than that he needs it for his delegates. Wink

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Show me data. I'm not sure I buy the consensus here, and I am keeping it a Cruz call.
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Ben Kenobi
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« Reply #8 on: May 01, 2016, 08:12:00 PM »

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He still lost to Kasich. That doesn't give me tremendous faith in his ability to deliver voters.

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Most consider the actual results to be relevant.

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Given that he's a relatively weak nominee, that Cruz is more conservative and WV is generally a conservative state, these are all solid arguments for Cruz in WV.

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The irony is that you're harping on me for a successful call of RI for Trump. Wink I predicted the sweep because I know the NE.

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I was being facetious in order to force out the actual sources behind all the WV calls. I've seen the evidence, I don't find his weak pluralities in TN or KY, and his outright loss in OH particularly compelling.
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« Reply #9 on: May 01, 2016, 08:29:18 PM »

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And yet, he still lost to Kasich in a two-man race. That is the point I'm trying to drive home here. Crubio topped him in WV and KY and TN, he lost to Kasich heads up in OH.

I wouldn't be nearly so confident in his ability to win in WV. I'm also amused in the utter devotion of Trumpbots to "Trump will sweep WV" because he obviously needs the delegates. Smiley
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« Reply #10 on: May 01, 2016, 09:21:55 PM »

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Clearly the rampant sexism of Atlasia has consequences. Who said they were men?
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