Election 2012: Barack Obama 42%, Ron Paul 41%

[Phony Moderate]

Haha, keep it up, red avies.

In fact keep this arrogant mentality going right up until election day 2012 when Dr. Ronald Paul is elected 45th President of the United States.

Your bubble will hopefully be popped during the primaries when Paul is a non-factor.

LOL.

Look at all the establishment puppets in this thread scrambling to find any excuse they can to dismiss the only real candidate for the 2012 race, Ron Paul.

You have clearly been brainwashed into thinking that Ron Paul is not an establishment puppet himself.

Really now?

If you work within the system, you work for the system.

[Sewer]

Haha, keep it up, red avies.

In fact keep this arrogant mentality going right up until election day 2012 when Dr. Ronald Paul is elected 45th President of the United States.

Your bubble will hopefully be popped during the primaries when Paul is a non-factor.

LOL.

Look at all the establishment puppets in this thread scrambling to find any excuse they can to dismiss the only real candidate for the 2012 race, Ron Paul.

You have clearly been brainwashed into thinking that Ron Paul is not an establishment puppet himself.

Really now?

If you work within the system, you work for the system.

no no no dont say that sh**t under my name!!

[Phony Moderate]

Haha, keep it up, red avies.

In fact keep this arrogant mentality going right up until election day 2012 when Dr. Ronald Paul is elected 45th President of the United States.

Your bubble will hopefully be popped during the primaries when Paul is a non-factor.

LOL.

Look at all the establishment puppets in this thread scrambling to find any excuse they can to dismiss the only real candidate for the 2012 race, Ron Paul.

You have clearly been brainwashed into thinking that Ron Paul is not an establishment puppet himself.

Really now?

If you work within the system, you work for the system.

no no no dont say that sh**t under my name!!

Your name is Sewer Socialist', my name is Sewer Socialist, so i am not posting under your name.

[Filuwaúrdjan]

41% of Americans would vote for a pig painted red-blue-and-white over Obama.

[King]

What about Gary Johnson, Libertas?

[TheGreatOne]

lol how did we get two Sewer Socialists(') from California on a single board?  I think you guys should duel for the name.  

[You kip if you want to...]

41% of Americans would vote for a pig painted red-blue-and-white over Obama.

"Well you can put lipstick on a pig, but, it's still a pig." To quote one Barack Obama, only in this case, I actually am using it in reference to Sarah Palin.

[Eraserhead]

Haha, keep it up, red avies.

In fact keep this arrogant mentality going right up until election day 2012 when Dr. Ronald Paul is elected 45th President of the United States.

Uh-huh. Well, lets say that for the sake of argument that this poll is accurate (it isn't but never mind that)... how does he win the Republican primary as a staunchly anti-war, anti-Patriot Act, anti-drug war candidate? Keep in mind that those are all positions that endear him to me!

[Zarn]

The only way that he wins the nomination is if a bunch of neocons and other social conservatives all run and take one anothers' votes.

[Obnoxiously Slutty Girly Girl]

Haha, keep it up, red avies.

In fact keep this arrogant mentality going right up until election day 2012 when Dr. Ronald Paul is elected 45th President of the United States.

Uh-huh. Well, lets say that for the sake of argument that this poll is accurate (it isn't but never mind that)... how does he win the Republican primary as a staunchly anti-war, anti-Patriot Act, anti-drug war candidate? Keep in mind that those are all positions that endear him to me!

Well we need to get all these independents voting in the Republican primaries. And if they live in closed primary states like I do, enrolled at least temporarily to influence the GOP from within.

[Oakvale]

FiveThirtyEight.com posits that, without Rasmussen's house effect, Obama vs. Paul is more like Obama +10, which is probably closer to the truth.

http://www.fivethirtyeight.com/2010/04/romney-not-paul-fares-best-in-12.html

Apparently, it is, for better or worse, Mittens who fares best in 2012 matchups.

EDIT: Haha, the first comment on that article could be written about this forum:

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[Obnoxiously Slutty Girly Girl]

FiveThirtyEight.com posits that, without Rasmussen's house effect, Obama vs. Paul is more like Obama +10, which is probably closer to the truth.

http://www.fivethirtyeight.com/2010/04/romney-not-paul-fares-best-in-12.html

Apparently, it is, for better or worse, Mittens who fares best in 2012 matchups.

EDIT: Haha, the first comment on that article could be written about this forum:

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Sorry, I'll trust Rasmussen over a hack site.

[Oakvale]

FiveThirtyEight.com posits that, without Rasmussen's house effect, Obama vs. Paul is more like Obama +10, which is probably closer to the truth.

http://www.fivethirtyeight.com/2010/04/romney-not-paul-fares-best-in-12.html

Apparently, it is, for better or worse, Mittens who fares best in 2012 matchups.

EDIT: Haha, the first comment on that article could be written about this forum:

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Sorry, I'll trust Rasmussen over a hack site.

Come on, 538's pretty well respected. We're not talking about Daily Kos here.

[Obnoxiously Slutty Girly Girl]

FiveThirtyEight.com posits that, without Rasmussen's house effect, Obama vs. Paul is more like Obama +10, which is probably closer to the truth.

http://www.fivethirtyeight.com/2010/04/romney-not-paul-fares-best-in-12.html

Apparently, it is, for better or worse, Mittens who fares best in 2012 matchups.

EDIT: Haha, the first comment on that article could be written about this forum:

You must be logged in to read this quote.

Sorry, I'll trust Rasmussen over a hack site.

Come on, 538's pretty well respected. We're not talking about Daily Kos here.

Obama +10 is ridiculous. Obama's popularity is sinking by the hour.

[Oakvale]

FiveThirtyEight.com posits that, without Rasmussen's house effect, Obama vs. Paul is more like Obama +10, which is probably closer to the truth.

http://www.fivethirtyeight.com/2010/04/romney-not-paul-fares-best-in-12.html

Apparently, it is, for better or worse, Mittens who fares best in 2012 matchups.

EDIT: Haha, the first comment on that article could be written about this forum:

You must be logged in to read this quote.

Sorry, I'll trust Rasmussen over a hack site.

Come on, 538's pretty well respected. We're not talking about Daily Kos here.

Obama +10 is ridiculous. Obama's popularity is sinking by the hour.

The election's two years away. Reagan was less popular at this point, for example.

More to the point, (IMO) Paul's philosophy isn't "electable". I know we disagree on that, obviously...

[Obnoxiously Slutty Girly Girl]

FiveThirtyEight.com posits that, without Rasmussen's house effect, Obama vs. Paul is more like Obama +10, which is probably closer to the truth.

http://www.fivethirtyeight.com/2010/04/romney-not-paul-fares-best-in-12.html

Apparently, it is, for better or worse, Mittens who fares best in 2012 matchups.

EDIT: Haha, the first comment on that article could be written about this forum:

You must be logged in to read this quote.

Sorry, I'll trust Rasmussen over a hack site.

Come on, 538's pretty well respected. We're not talking about Daily Kos here.

Obama +10 is ridiculous. Obama's popularity is sinking by the hour.

The election's two years away. Reagan was less popular at this point, for example.

More to the point, (IMO) Paul's philosophy isn't "electable". I know we disagree on that, obviously...

Uh, Paul's philosophy is the only one left untried and untarnished after 12 years of BushBama.

[Oakvale]

FiveThirtyEight.com posits that, without Rasmussen's house effect, Obama vs. Paul is more like Obama +10, which is probably closer to the truth.

http://www.fivethirtyeight.com/2010/04/romney-not-paul-fares-best-in-12.html

Apparently, it is, for better or worse, Mittens who fares best in 2012 matchups.

EDIT: Haha, the first comment on that article could be written about this forum:

You must be logged in to read this quote.

Sorry, I'll trust Rasmussen over a hack site.

Come on, 538's pretty well respected. We're not talking about Daily Kos here.

Obama +10 is ridiculous. Obama's popularity is sinking by the hour.

The election's two years away. Reagan was less popular at this point, for example.

More to the point, (IMO) Paul's philosophy isn't "electable". I know we disagree on that, obviously...

Uh, Paul's philosophy is the only one left untried and untarnished after 12 years of BushBama.

Not to be crass, but they haven't tried, say, fascism, yet but it doesn't mean people want it. It's simple, really.

If you ask someone about "big government", their knee jerk reaction will be that of opposition, but start asking that hypothetical person about highways and Medicare and the Civil Rights Act(s) and their opinion may just change.

[Eraserhead]

FiveThirtyEight.com posits that, without Rasmussen's house effect, Obama vs. Paul is more like Obama +10, which is probably closer to the truth.

http://www.fivethirtyeight.com/2010/04/romney-not-paul-fares-best-in-12.html

Apparently, it is, for better or worse, Mittens who fares best in 2012 matchups.

EDIT: Haha, the first comment on that article could be written about this forum:

You must be logged in to read this quote.

Sorry, I'll trust Rasmussen over a hack site.

Come on, 538's pretty well respected. We're not talking about Daily Kos here.

Obama +10 is ridiculous. Obama's popularity is sinking by the hour.

It's an average of the polls. It is what it is.

[HappyWarrior]

FiveThirtyEight.com posits that, without Rasmussen's house effect, Obama vs. Paul is more like Obama +10, which is probably closer to the truth.

http://www.fivethirtyeight.com/2010/04/romney-not-paul-fares-best-in-12.html

Apparently, it is, for better or worse, Mittens who fares best in 2012 matchups.

EDIT: Haha, the first comment on that article could be written about this forum:

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Sorry, I'll trust Rasmussen over a hack site.

Fact is that Rasmussen is a hack site.

[Marokai Backbeat]

FiveThirtyEight.com posits that, without Rasmussen's house effect, Obama vs. Paul is more like Obama +10, which is probably closer to the truth.

http://www.fivethirtyeight.com/2010/04/romney-not-paul-fares-best-in-12.html

Apparently, it is, for better or worse, Mittens who fares best in 2012 matchups.

EDIT: Haha, the first comment on that article could be written about this forum:

You must be logged in to read this quote.

Sorry, I'll trust Rasmussen over a hack site.

I look forward to your comprehensive reasoned rebuttal of the 528 polling calculation method.

[Obnoxiously Slutty Girly Girl]

FiveThirtyEight.com posits that, without Rasmussen's house effect, Obama vs. Paul is more like Obama +10, which is probably closer to the truth.

http://www.fivethirtyeight.com/2010/04/romney-not-paul-fares-best-in-12.html

Apparently, it is, for better or worse, Mittens who fares best in 2012 matchups.

EDIT: Haha, the first comment on that article could be written about this forum:

You must be logged in to read this quote.

Sorry, I'll trust Rasmussen over a hack site.

Come on, 538's pretty well respected. We're not talking about Daily Kos here.

Obama +10 is ridiculous. Obama's popularity is sinking by the hour.

The election's two years away. Reagan was less popular at this point, for example.

More to the point, (IMO) Paul's philosophy isn't "electable". I know we disagree on that, obviously...

Uh, Paul's philosophy is the only one left untried and untarnished after 12 years of BushBama.

Not to be crass, but they haven't tried, say, fascism, yet but it doesn't mean people want it. It's simple, really.

If you ask someone about "big government", their knee jerk reaction will be that of opposition, but start asking that hypothetical person about highways and Medicare and the Civil Rights Act(s) and their opinion may just change.

Of course we tried fascism. That's what is in power right now.

[Vepres]

Paul cannot win. He has absolutely no charisma, comes off as a bit crazy, wants to abolish the federal reserve, is VERY socially conservative at the state level, and has questionable associations with racists and even more so with conspiracy theorists. He can't win more than 15% of the GOP primary electorate.

[Phony Moderate]

Paul cannot win. He has absolutely no charisma, comes off as a bit crazy, wants to abolish the federal reserve, is VERY socially conservative at the state level, and has questionable associations with racists and even more so with conspiracy theorists. He can't win more than 15% of the GOP primary electorate.

Now now now, Vepres, don't go hurting the feelings of the "libertarian" apologists.

[Obnoxiously Slutty Girly Girl]

Paul cannot win. He has absolutely no charisma, comes off as a bit crazy, wants to abolish the federal reserve, is VERY socially conservative at the state level, and has questionable associations with racists and even more so with conspiracy theorists. He can't win more than 15% of the GOP primary electorate.

Sorry, Paul is pretty popular among real independents.

[Lunar]

This is the Ron Paul who couldn't break 10% in the GOP primary states until he was like the only non-McCain guy left. 

Shows how useless polling is 2.5 years before election day.