Liberals Ready to Abandon Abortion as an Issue

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65% of Americans want Roe vs. Wade to stand (technically it's not the law of the land and the weaker Planned Parenthood vs. Casey is). Why should liberals abandon that 65%?

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What you have to remember is that any decision like this is made out of some pretty cold electoral calculation. If the Democrats drop abortion as an issue they obvious reckon that there's more votes to be gained (sorry, regained) out of it than votes that'd be lost due to it.
Political geography plays a role too; a vote in (say) Southeast Ohio is worth more than a vote in (say) suburban New York.

They'll say goodbye to NH, NJ, DE, perhaps CA and ME.  I think that you just want the Republicans to win. It's 65%, you fool. The other less than 35% would never vote for us anyways.   those bigots.

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Is being called a "bigot" by a social darwinist a compliment, btw?

Do you always call people to the left of you on economic issues social darwinists?

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I will always be pro-choice, and will do everything in my power to keep the party on that track.

That's fine. Just quit trying to pack the courts.

Pack the courts? We're the ones trying to pack the courts?

Putting people on the judiciary to legislate from the bench is definitely packing the courts.

I agree, we don't need any more activist conservatives.

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If you or anyone else whish to condone baby killing by disguising it as "choice", that's your own decision. 

The character and worth of a nation is determined by how they treat the most helpless and vulnerable in society.

Oh, come on, Republicans don't really care about people after they're born.

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Oh, come on, Republicans don't really care about people after they're born.

For someone who has screamed "strawman!" more than once in the past couple weeks, you sure have a double standard.

This doesn't sound like a Republican:

The character and worth of a nation is determined by how they treat the most helpless and vulnerable in society.

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The character and worth of a nation is determined by how they treat the most helpless and vulnerable in society.

The Republican party represents the antithesis of that statement.

So Republicans are anti-charity?  Here's a listing of charitable giving per capita by state:

Mississippi (highest charitable giving per capita)
Arkansas
Oklahoma
Louisiana
Alabama
Tennessee
South Dakota
Utah
South Carolina
Idaho
Wyoming
Texas
West Virginia
Nebraska
North Dakota
North Carolina
Kansas
Florida
Georgia
Kentucky
Montana
Missouri
New Mexico
Alaska
Indiana
New York
Iowa
Ohio
California
Maryland
Illinois
Maine
Delaware
Washington
Vermont
Oregon
Hawaii
Virginia
Arizona
Nevada
Pennsylvania
Michigan
Colorado
Connecticut
Minnesota
Wisconsin
New Jersey
Rhode Island
Massachusetts
New Hampshire

The top 25 voted for Bush in 2004.  9 of the bottom 10 voted Kerry.

So? The Kerry states tend to send a lot more to the federal government than they get back.

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It proves they're generous to their church.

Hey, you know what?  You and jfern are the ones making the unsubstantiated and outrageous claim that Republicans are a bunch of cold-hearted misers.  Why don't you provide some evidence to back it up?

I've linked to this a zillion times before. Blue states like CA and  NJ heavily subsidize red states like WY and ND.

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I don't think most liberal in public office will abandon their support for abortion on demand, but the numbers indicate that they should.

Gallup has been asking an abortion question for many years, and the trend in the responses is most interesting.  They asked whether abortion should be: Always Legal, Sometimes Legal, or Always Illegal.  A brief tabulation of the responses followsL

Year     Always     Sometimes     Always
            Legal         Legal            Illegal

1990      31%          56%              12%

2000      28             51                  19

2005      24             55                  20

The only other social issue tracked for a long time showing a pretty consistent trend against the position taken by most Democrats in public office deals with firearms.     

A lot of the Republicans want to completely ban it, so are in that 20%.

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Do you ever bother to read my posts.

First, I have repeatedly favored selected limits on abortion (Partial birth abortion ban, parental notification, etc.) not a total ban.

Second, I am as I have previously noted a Democrat.

Third, try dealing with the facts I posted (if you can).

Ummm, the Republicans will do everything they can do ban it. They'll probably want to ban the morning after pill, too. Dobson has made it clear that he doesn't like abortion.

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Do you ever bother to read my posts.

First, I have repeatedly favored selected limits on abortion (Partial birth abortion ban, parental notification, etc.) not a total ban.

Second, I am as I have previously noted a Democrat.

Third, try dealing with the facts I posted (if you can).

Ummm, the Republicans will do everything they can do ban it. They'll probably want to ban the morning after pill, too. Dobson has made it clear that he doesn't like abortion.

What the hell?  I've never seen a major Republican wanting to ban all abortions.  I have quite often seen Democrats wanting to allow all abortions.

Plenty of them. For example Coburn and Dobson.