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Erich Maria Remarque
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« Reply #175 on: August 01, 2016, 02:56:04 PM »

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« Reply #176 on: August 01, 2016, 02:57:32 PM »


I actually just posted it here to trigger him. Wink
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« Reply #177 on: August 01, 2016, 05:04:41 PM »

Clinton's now at 63.3% in polls-only, 67.7 in polls-plus, and 82.2 in nowcast.
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« Reply #178 on: August 01, 2016, 05:35:00 PM »

This is why it was pointless to start this before the conventions. Why bother showing these massive swings we all knew were coming?
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« Reply #179 on: August 01, 2016, 05:39:38 PM »

I enjoyed this description of what each of the forecasts are 'thinking' right now.

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« Reply #180 on: August 01, 2016, 05:40:08 PM »

This is why it was pointless to start this before the conventions. Why bother showing these massive swings we all knew were coming?

So that the massive swings would look cool on the graph.
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« Reply #181 on: August 01, 2016, 05:41:49 PM »
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I enjoyed this description of what each of the forecasts are 'thinking' right now.

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The now cast sounds a lot like the Atlas Forum!

Glad to say I sounded like Polls-plus though. Smiley
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« Reply #182 on: August 02, 2016, 01:06:06 AM »

The swing that took place today in the 538 models, in favor of Hillary, is dramatic.
And they made me happy !
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« Reply #183 on: August 03, 2016, 10:09:12 AM »

According to today's now-cast, if Trump picks up EVERY state he has a 25% or greater chance of winning, the map looks like this:



Trump 270
Clinton 168

If Clinton picks up every state she has a 25% or greater chance in, the map looks like this:


* Missouri is at 24.9% for Clinton

Clinton 384
Trump 154
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« Reply #184 on: August 03, 2016, 10:27:47 AM »

This is why it was pointless to start this before the conventions. Why bother showing these massive swings we all knew were coming?

The polls-plus version has been remarkably steady.
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« Reply #185 on: August 03, 2016, 10:29:37 AM »

According to today's now-cast, if Trump picks up EVERY state he has a 25% or greater chance of winning, the map looks like this:



Trump 270
Clinton 168

If Clinton picks up every state she has a 25% or greater chance in, the map looks like this:


* Missouri is at 24.9% for Clinton

Clinton 384
Trump 154

Has there been an election where one candidate has carried all 13 original states? 36?
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« Reply #186 on: August 03, 2016, 10:31:43 AM »

1984 also.
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« Reply #187 on: August 03, 2016, 10:33:23 AM »

According to today's now-cast, if Trump picks up EVERY state he has a 25% or greater chance of winning, the map looks like this:



Trump 270
Clinton 168

If Clinton picks up every state she has a 25% or greater chance in, the map looks like this:


* Missouri is at 24.9% for Clinton

Clinton 384
Trump 154

Those two maps actually look really, really realistic, with the exceptions of Nevada in the first and Missouri in the second.

It would also be pretty cool if Clinton won all thirteen original colonies.
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« Reply #188 on: August 03, 2016, 10:33:45 AM »


Yeah, Roosevelt did it 3 times actually, 36, 40, and 44
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« Reply #189 on: August 03, 2016, 10:45:20 AM »


Wow, I'm amazed he won New Hampshire three times.
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« Reply #190 on: August 03, 2016, 11:19:31 AM »

Another interesting game to pay is to match red states with blue states by probability of flipping.

In polls-plus:

DC, MD, HI = OK, AL
CA = WV, ID
NY, MA = NE-3, WY
IL = NE-AL, KS, UT, AR, LA, TN
VT, RI = KY
WA = TX, IN, MS
NJ, DE, CT, ME-1, OR = MT, ND, SD, AK
NM = SC
MI = NE-1, MO
VA, MN, ME-AL = GA
PA, CO = AZ
NV = NE-2
IA = NC

Trump is closer to these than Clinton is to any Trump states:
FL, OH, NH, ME-2

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« Reply #191 on: August 03, 2016, 12:09:56 PM »

According to today's now-cast, if Trump picks up EVERY state he has a 25% or greater chance of winning, the map looks like this:



Trump 270
Clinton 168

If Clinton picks up every state she has a 25% or greater chance in, the map looks like this:


* Missouri is at 24.9% for Clinton

Clinton 384
Trump 154

Those two maps actually look really, really realistic, with the exceptions of Nevada in the first and Missouri in the second.

It would also be pretty cool if Clinton won all thirteen original colonies.

I don't think we see South Carolina flip. That seems like a bit of a stretch.
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« Reply #192 on: August 03, 2016, 01:00:09 PM »

According to today's now-cast, if Trump picks up EVERY state he has a 25% or greater chance of winning, the map looks like this:



Trump 270
Clinton 168

If Clinton picks up every state she has a 25% or greater chance in, the map looks like this:


* Missouri is at 24.9% for Clinton

Clinton 384
Trump 154

Those two maps actually look really, really realistic, with the exceptions of Nevada in the first and Missouri in the second.

It would also be pretty cool if Clinton won all thirteen original colonies.

I don't think we see South Carolina flip. That seems like a bit of a stretch.

*triggered*
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« Reply #193 on: August 03, 2016, 03:07:09 PM »


I don't think we see South Carolina flip. That seems like a bit of a stretch.

The 538 now-cast gives Clinton a better chance of taking SC than Trump has of taking OH (?!).

0-1%
TRUMP: DC, HI, CA, MD, NY, MA, IL
CLINTON: WV, AL, OK, ID

1-5%
TRUMP: VT, RI, NJ, WA
CLINTON: WY, NE-3, TN, LA

5-10%
TRUMP: OR, CO, NM, DE, CT, WI, MI, ME-1
CLINTON: NE, KS, AR

10-25%
TRUMP: MN, PA, VA, ME
CLINTON: IN, TX, MT, ND, SD, NE-1, UT, KY, MS, MO, AK

25-40%
TRUMP: NV, IA, OH, FL, NC
CLINTON: SC

40-50%
TRUMP: ME-2, NH
CLINTON: NE-2, AZ, GA





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« Reply #194 on: August 04, 2016, 09:03:35 AM »

538 Nowcast this morning has Arizona at exactly 50-50 and Georgia with a 48.6% chance for HRC
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« Reply #195 on: August 04, 2016, 11:15:03 AM »

A bit off topic, but MSNBC just plotted out Hillary's ceiling at this time: Here was the map:



Pretty much lines up with all of the states where Hillary has >25% chance of winning today in 538 Nowcast.
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« Reply #196 on: August 04, 2016, 11:16:23 AM »

The polls-only and polls-plus will also move to 90% or more for Clinton if we get a bunch of Florida polls like Suffolk showing Clinton up 6 points
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« Reply #197 on: August 04, 2016, 11:39:41 AM »

Man, the now-cast map is absolutely bluetiful! And he hasn't even entered in the FL Suffolk poll.
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« Reply #198 on: August 04, 2016, 11:45:25 AM »

A bit off topic, but MSNBC just plotted out Hillary's ceiling at this time: Here was the map:



Pretty much lines up with all of the states where Hillary has >25% chance of winning today in 538 Nowcast.

Today's >25% nowcast for Clinton:


*SD is at 24.9%

At >20% SD, ND, MT, TX, and MS flip.
At >15% IN flips.

>25% nowcast for Trump:



At >20% NV flips.
At >15% IA, OH, FL, and NH flip.  This will get Trump to exactly 270.

In other words, if Trump's ceiling is 270 EVs, Clinton's ceiling is 468:




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« Reply #199 on: August 04, 2016, 11:48:51 AM »

Happy South Dakota Farmers strike again.
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