Clintonland is "irritated" by Axelrod

[Mr. Morden]

http://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/232811-axelrod-quips-irritate-clintonland

[Chancellor Tanterterg]

Of course, all of what Axelrod says about her is true, especially the part about her failure to articulate a reason for her candidacy's existence beyond her personal ambition (which isn't a good enough reason in-and-of-itself).  Despite what IceSpear will probably claim, no one really knows what "Ready for Hillary" means beyond the fact that Hillary Clinton is still trying to become President.  She's going to have to answer that question sooner or later whether she likes it or not.  Just look at Ted Kennedy's interview with Mudd in 1980 for an example of what happens when a Presidential candidate is unable to answer that question.

[heatmaster]

Have to come across the partisan divide and support what x stated; if Hillary is unable to answer the most of compelling questions,  why is she running and it can't just be about her resume, she has to convince her base and all voters of her "mission" if you will, she has to have a "conversation" with herself.  She has to, in otherwise frames an idea and build her candidacy around that idea. If not, then if she's unable to define herself; then us Republicans will and not in flattering terms either. A bad candidate will always come up trumps against an "empty suit".

[King]

What reason beyond wanting to be President does somebody need to run for President?

[Chunk Yogurt for President!]

What reason beyond wanting to be President does somebody need to run for President?

None, but it would be helpful to articulate how you are going to change things if you become President.

[Beet]

Axelrod is a smart guy and a lot of what he says is true. I don't really think his antics are worth getting offended over.

[King]

What reason beyond wanting to be President does somebody need to run for President?

None, but it would be helpful to articulate how you are going to change things if you become President.

In the preliminary stages before she has even formed an exploratory committee? That's an absurd demand. Meanwhile, Scott Walker is just giving speeches about how much he loves to shop at Kohl's.

A policy platform to deliver to the voters is something that is months away, not now.

[Chancellor Tanterterg]

What reason beyond wanting to be President does somebody need to run for President?

None, but it would be helpful to articulate how you are going to change things if you become President.

In the preliminary stages before she has even formed an exploratory committee? That's an absurd demand. A policy platform to deliver to the voters is something that is months away, not now.

He didn't say a policy platform   And it isn't like she was able to articulate a reason beyond her own ambition in 2008.  She had a whole primary season to do that and failed miserably.

[IceSpear]

Not surprising. Axelrod's been concern trolling about Hillary ever since November 7th, 2012. And usually he's just repeating the same stuff over and over. It's getting quite old. I guess he's angling for the "token Democrat you invite on FOX to bash the nominee" role.

[IceSpear]

What reason beyond wanting to be President does somebody need to run for President?

None, but it would be helpful to articulate how you are going to change things if you become President.

In the preliminary stages before she has even formed an exploratory committee? That's an absurd demand. Meanwhile, Scott Walker is just giving speeches about how much he loves to shop at Kohl's.

A policy platform to deliver to the voters is something that is months away, not now.

Anyone who is paying attention already knows where Hillary stands on the issues. Apparently some people think that unless you have some stupid focus group tested "inspiring" slogan, you have no rationale for your candidacy. Don't worry guys, the vacuous slogan will come eventually. Until then, you'll have to make due with actual substance.

[Del Tachi]

What reason beyond wanting to be President does somebody need to run for President?

None, but it would be helpful to articulate how you are going to change things if you become President.

In the preliminary stages before she has even formed an exploratory committee? That's an absurd demand. Meanwhile, Scott Walker is just giving speeches about how much he loves to shop at Kohl's.

A policy platform to deliver to the voters is something that is months away, not now.

Anyone who is paying attention already knows where Hillary stands on the issues. Apparently some people think that unless you have some stupid focus group tested "inspiring" slogan, you have no rationale for your candidacy. Don't worry guys, the vacuous slogan will come eventually. Until then, you'll have to make due with actual substance.

For once I agree with IceSpear

[King]

What reason beyond wanting to be President does somebody need to run for President?

None, but it would be helpful to articulate how you are going to change things if you become President.

In the preliminary stages before she has even formed an exploratory committee? That's an absurd demand. A policy platform to deliver to the voters is something that is months away, not now.

He didn't say a policy platform  And it isn't like she was able to articulate a reason beyond her own ambition in 2008.  She had a whole primary season to do that and failed miserably.

Again, I can't name one reason beyond one's own ambition anyone has ever had to be President.

I don't think the problem here is that her only reason for running is wanting to be President because she's a Clinton.

I think the problem here is that because she's a Clinton, you want her to have more of a reason than just wanting to be President.

You're moving the goalposts and holding her to a standard that no other potential candidate is being held accountable to.

[Beet]

I mean sure, if everyone was as sane as the people in this thread, she wouldn't need a rationale for running.

But her lack of a strong rationale for running (in contrast to Edwards' "two americas" or Obama's "hope and change") in '08 pretty much fed into every negative stereotype of her imaginable. I think this is what Axelrod means.

[King]

The rationale is that she's a whiteknuckle closer who can fight through Congress and the bureaucracy and claim victories. It's a bit of a solemn message and not inspiring, but it's right for 2016. The American people are more or less disillusioned and cynical. They will be looking for a stable hard nose this time, like they were with Nixon in 68.

For inspiration, ideally she'd pick up a younger running mate (who isn't Sarah Palin dumb) to groom to be the standard bearer of the Democrats next.

[Chancellor Tanterterg]

I mean sure, if everyone was as sane as the people in this thread, she wouldn't need a rationale for running.

But her lack of a strong rationale for running (in contrast to Edwards' "two americas" or Obama's "hope and change") in '08 pretty much fed into every negative stereotype of her imaginable. I think this is what Axelrod means.

This

[Panda Express]

Clinton better be careful. David Axelrod already mopped the floor with Hillary Clinton in 2008. (It was brutal). If David Axelrod joins Martin O'Malley's campaign, it could end poorly for her.

[IceSpear]

Clinton better be careful. David Axelrod already mopped the floor with Hillary Clinton in 2008. (It was brutal). If David Axelrod joins Martin O'Malley's campaign, it could end poorly for her.

LOL, thanks for the laugh.

[King]

Axelrod can't fix bores like O'Malley, but he certainly could lead a smooth talking empty suit Congressman out of nowhere. He's not going to do it, though.