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Fmr President & Senator Polnut
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E: -2.71, S: -5.22

« on: September 28, 2016, 08:22:19 PM »

Isn't this an improvement for Trump?  I thought their previous result was Clinton +5?

Yes, but that poll was from the end of August and before the pneumonia "scandal"
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E: -2.71, S: -5.22

« Reply #1 on: September 28, 2016, 08:55:25 PM »

I expected at least plus 5 for Clinton. This is bad for her.

lol, k.
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E: -2.71, S: -5.22

« Reply #2 on: September 28, 2016, 09:44:28 PM »

Plus - it's barely 48 hours since the debate.
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E: -2.71, S: -5.22

« Reply #3 on: September 28, 2016, 10:27:37 PM »

How is Trump +1 post debate???  I assumed he would lose at least 5 points in the short term.

A reminder - PPP never did a poll when Clinton was declining massively.

Considering PPP has been nowhere near as hot on Clinton as other pollsters, this needs to be made VERY clear.
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E: -2.71, S: -5.22

« Reply #4 on: September 28, 2016, 10:35:33 PM »

How is Trump +1 post debate???  I assumed he would lose at least 5 points in the short term.
There is no good apples-to-apples comparison with this poll. There hasn't been a poll for a month.

My guess is that this will be D+6 with the H+4 topline.

D+6 or 7 makes at least some sense sense because that's what happened last election.

Wait... is party ID being brought back as a thing...
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E: -2.71, S: -5.22

« Reply #5 on: September 28, 2016, 11:03:11 PM »

This basically confirms those +6 and +7 polls from last week were bogus, unless somebody wants to argue her poll numbers went down from last week post debate. Still though, given that it appeared the race was about +2 for her last week, this isn't much of a bump.

Edit: Going by the Monmouth, NBC, and YouGov Polls, she didn't get any bump from the debate.


Again... noting that polls taken less than 48 hours after a debate rarely pick up the scale of any changes.
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E: -2.71, S: -5.22

« Reply #6 on: September 29, 2016, 05:32:27 AM »

Seriously... how is this election even close with numbers like that:

African Americans:

Clinton 81
Johnson 7
McMullin 3
Stein 2
Trump 2

Hispanics:

Clinton 62
Johnson 17
Trump 16

That's an EXTREMELY good question
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