France General Discussion II: Living under Marxism

[Peter the Lefty]

Why is acceptance of homosexuality down 6%? That can't all be from Muslims, can it?

People being annoyed at the gay marriage debate.

"How dare those queers ask for their rights?  That's it, I don't accept their lifestyle anymore because of how angry I am!"

[MaxQue]

Why is acceptance of homosexuality down 6%? That can't all be from Muslims, can it?

People being annoyed at the gay marriage debate.

"How dare those queers ask for their rights?  That's it, I don't accept their lifestyle anymore because of how angry I am!"

No, people are annoyed by all the ruckus it caused.

[Antonio the Sixth]

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2336342/Ex-lovers-fight-presidency-France-Mother-Francois-Hollandes-children-tipped-leader.html'

Yep, it's true.  She's criticizing Hollande vaguely from the left, it would appear.  And she's got a new book out.  She lists Mitterand as a role model.  Lolz. 

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2013/may/18/segolene-royal-back-francois-hollande-problem

She's basically a troll at this point.

[Hash]

Segogo has been running around in circles trying to get attention and she has tried every tactic to do so (criticizing the government, supporting the government 'in tough times', covert lobbying for a job, "writing" a book). Since June, she's been desperate to land some job - they gave her some plum post as VP of some investment bank thing, but she doesn't care because she wants something better. This time, her latest gig (book + critical of the government) seems to have work, since the media has picked up on her and she's been on every imaginable TV show to say that, no, the government is doing a fine job but, no, she's not actually lobbying to join Flanby's cabinet. Of course, Segogo will never join Flanby's cabinet since Valoche would blow a fuse and it would be a massive conflict of interest. I'm sure they could find her some job as MEP or senator.

[RogueBeaver]

Lille's Grand Stade will be named after Mauroy.

[RogueBeaver]

Sarko prepping for a comeback?

[windjammer]

Sarko prepping for a comeback?

He won't win office again, he can try but it won't be successful.

[CatoMinor]

Sarko prepping for a comeback?

He won't win office again, he can try but it won't be successful.

You sure he wouldn't in a Rematch with Hollande?

[MaxQue]

Sarko prepping for a comeback?

He won't win office again, he can try but it won't be successful.

You sure he wouldn't in a Rematch with Hollande?

Well, surely the economy will improve before 2017.

[RogueBeaver]

NYT article on the bac.

[Hash]

The bac is ridiculous, silly and stupid.

[RogueBeaver]

Panzergirl's being indicted on charges of inciting racial hatred after the EP lifted her immunity.

[Antonio the Sixth]

Meh, this plays right into her narrative...

Still, the law is the law.

[Hash]

The minister of the environment and energy, Delphine Batho (PS) was fired from the cabinet after saying that the 2014 budget sucked because her ministry suffers a lot from the austerity cuts (-7%). A lot of PS deputies are fairly sympathetic to her and EELV seems pretty (justifiably) pissed off.

It just goes to show how this government, among other horrible decisions, is paying lip service to the environment and doesn't give two sh**ts about it. Which explains, naturally, why Flanby was so eager to fire her while nobody did anything when Montebourg insulted Ayrault in cabinet.

http://www.lemonde.fr/politique/article/2013/07/02/batho-critique-ouvertement-le-budget-de-l-ecologie-pour-2014_3440184_823448.html

She is replaced by Philippe Martin, PS deputy for the Gers.

[Peter the Lefty]

Here's hoping she primaries Flanby in 2017.  The PS has to be saved from itself.

[Antonio the Sixth]

Yeah, pretty insane that they are firing the absolutely harmless Batho while keeping that annoying tool Montebourg.

[Hash]

Yeah, pretty insane that they are firing the absolutely harmless Batho while keeping that annoying tool Montebourg.

Flanby can't really afford alienating the PS lefties anymore, given that they're pissed off enough as it is and would probably take quite badly to Montebourg's firing. On the other hand, Batho is a nobody, a former Royalist who doesn't have a power base within the party and no strong factional ties that I know of. She was the perfect scapegoat and victim for the government, which probably wanted to show that they're "tough" after the Cahuzac sh**tfest and the Montebourg scenes.

[You kip if you want to...]

Thing about Montebourg is that he clearly sees that he's nowhere near the peak of his career and he knows it. He'd explode if he was fired.

[Hash]

Thing about Montebourg is that he clearly sees that he's nowhere near the peak of his career and he knows it. He'd explode if he was fired.

While this may be true, his aura and star has certainly faded a whole lot since 2011. Being in government, being perceived (rightly) as a reckless asshole and handling a thankless portfolio has hurt him a lot. For him, I dare say that his political career would be better advanced by being outside government where he could act like Segolene and freely criticize the government in thinly veiled terms. He's more controllable, I think, being in cabinet.

[Peter the Lefty]

Yeah, pretty insane that they are firing the absolutely harmless Batho while keeping that annoying tool Montebourg.

What's he been up to since the whole nuclear energy fiasco?

[Hash]

Batho warned at the transfer of powers that she's gonna spill the beans on the circumstances of her firing at a press conf tomorrow afternoon.

Meanwhile, her replacement has basically confirmed that he doesn't care about the environment, saying there's more to it than a budget because he wants to "instill an environmental conviction" and cool stuff like that.

[Antonio the Sixth]

Yeah, pretty insane that they are firing the absolutely harmless Batho while keeping that annoying tool Montebourg.

What's he been up to since the whole nuclear energy fiasco?

Bragging about how he was going to save all the French industries while they were closing.

[RogueBeaver]

Constitutional Court rejects Sarko's 2012 campaign finance report.

[windjammer]

Good news

[RogueBeaver]

What happens now with regards to legal penalties?