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Gustaf
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« on: July 18, 2016, 06:06:48 PM »

What a sad attempt. Even most Trump supporters aren't this dumb.

What she's saying is that people often join gangs because they look for a sense of community when their own family is broken. For people in this situation society could help by providing positive community settings (you can say that supporting family structures can help, but for people already lacking a family this obviously isn't true).

In fact, pretty much every church works exactly on this principle and all these ex-cons, ex-addicts, etc who reform and join churches usually give testimony amounting to precisely this point.

But I guess it isn't surprising that a Trump supporter can't recognize a trivial fact when presented with it.
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« Reply #1 on: July 19, 2016, 05:24:09 AM »

I think what's being applied here is perception that Hillary/the left framing the conversation of gangs as an alternative to family.  By saying "Joining A Gang Is Like Having A Family" is really making seem as if its justified.  Gangs like(cripps,bloods) claim the same "family" banner , yet they are really just criminal enterprises that take advantage of the weak that ironically come from broken family structure.   This isn't like the mafia of the 1970s -1980s either.


Of course the white liberal left could careless because more black men in gangs means more inner city crime and democratic votes.

No, that is not THEIR framing. That's YOUR framing. She was observing a trivial fact - people pick gangs as an alternative to family. Understanding peoples' motivations is important if you actually care about addressing it. Do you?
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« Reply #2 on: July 19, 2016, 07:17:55 AM »

I think what's being applied here is perception that Hillary/the left framing the conversation of gangs as an alternative to family.  By saying "Joining A Gang Is Like Having A Family" is really making seem as if its justified.  Gangs like(cripps,bloods) claim the same "family" banner , yet they are really just criminal enterprises that take advantage of the weak that ironically come from broken family structure.   This isn't like the mafia of the 1970s -1980s either.


Of course the white liberal left could careless because more black men in gangs means more inner city crime and democratic votes.

No, that is not THEIR framing. That's YOUR framing. She was observing a trivial fact - people pick gangs as an alternative to family. Understanding peoples' motivations is important if you actually care about addressing it. Do you?


I think that's something the black community should ask itself.     

You prioritize being racist over being constructive. What a shocker.
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