MI-Glengariff Group/WDIV-TV: Clinton up 4, Sanders up 19

[psychprofessor]

same group, which is a Republican pollster, had Obama up 5 around the same time in 2012. This is a likely Clinton state. Very unpopular governor and Clinton has been out in front of the Flint water crisis.

[Bojack Horseman]

Trump getting 39% of the vote in Michigan sounds about right. The last time a racist was on the ballot, that's about all he got:

[Maxwell]

wow what a great honor!

[Ljube]

As a point of reference, Obama was polling worse at this time in MI in 2008:

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2008/president/mi/michigan_mccain_vs_obama-553.html

Rasmussen   6/9 - 6/9           500 LV   --   42   45   Obama +3
SurveyUSA   5/27 - 5/27   529 RV   --   41   37   McCain +4
Detroit News   5/19 - 5/22   600 RV   --   44   40   McCain +4
Rasmussen   5/7 - 5/7           500 LV   4.5   45   44   McCain +1

Final Result in November: Obama+16.4

Of course the economy had yet to go into an undeniable tailspin...

True, but this tells us this isn't a bad result this early.

This tells us nothing because the environment is different.
Plus both Obama and Trump appeal to working class voters and there was an economic breakdown in 2008.

[Dr. Arch]

As a point of reference, Obama was polling worse at this time in MI in 2008:

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2008/president/mi/michigan_mccain_vs_obama-553.html

Rasmussen   6/9 - 6/9           500 LV   --   42   45   Obama +3
SurveyUSA   5/27 - 5/27   529 RV   --   41   37   McCain +4
Detroit News   5/19 - 5/22   600 RV   --   44   40   McCain +4
Rasmussen   5/7 - 5/7           500 LV   4.5   45   44   McCain +1

Final Result in November: Obama+16.4

Of course the economy had yet to go into an undeniable tailspin...

True, but this tells us this isn't a bad result this early.

This tells us nothing because the environment is different.
Plus both Obama and Trump appeal to working class voters and there was an economic breakdown in 2008.

Keep dreaming in that dream world, Ljube.

[Ljube]

As a point of reference, Obama was polling worse at this time in MI in 2008:

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2008/president/mi/michigan_mccain_vs_obama-553.html

Rasmussen   6/9 - 6/9           500 LV   --   42   45   Obama +3
SurveyUSA   5/27 - 5/27   529 RV   --   41   37   McCain +4
Detroit News   5/19 - 5/22   600 RV   --   44   40   McCain +4
Rasmussen   5/7 - 5/7           500 LV   4.5   45   44   McCain +1

Final Result in November: Obama+16.4

Of course the economy had yet to go into an undeniable tailspin...

True, but this tells us this isn't a bad result this early.

This tells us nothing because the environment is different.
Plus both Obama and Trump appeal to working class voters and there was an economic breakdown in 2008.

Keep dreaming in that dream world, Ljube.

Maybe I'm in a dream world and maybe I'm in the real world. We'll see who's dreaming in about four to five months when polls start to mean something.

[pbrower2a]

The 19% margin involving Sanders suggests the perfect storm as a political disaster for the GOP.  Michigan went 57-41 in 2008. probably a max-out for any Democratic nominee not facing Barry Goldwater.