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SATW
SunriseAroundTheWorld
Junior Chimp
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« on: June 22, 2016, 01:45:03 PM »

Endorsed.
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SATW
SunriseAroundTheWorld
Junior Chimp
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Posts: 6,463
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« Reply #1 on: November 30, 2016, 09:35:34 AM »

The anti-Rubio and pro-Rubio hacks are both equally obnoxious.

I'm as Pro-Rubio as one gets (without actually getting a fuzzy feeling in my pants)

I volunteered and interned for his presidential campaign
, I happily supported him for his re-election in Florida and I hope he runs for president, becomes VP or a Cabinet member in the future but he's not actually flawless. Nor is he a shoe-in for a future presidential run.

His debate performance was actually really bad against Christie. His flip flopping on a senate run was cringeworthy.

It is also of note that  no candidate - including Ted Cruz, Nikki Haley, Scott Walker, or others - are shoe-ins for future/potential pres runs.

This is politics, not a sporting event nor is it a beauty pageant. Also, as many of us know, Trump's election has and will continue to change our political system.

Moving onto the haters:

- I don't really see how he's so bad in many of your eyes. I can see why you seem him as an empty suit, why you can see him as an attention whore or a overhyped pretty boy but he's not even close to the "worst" the GOP has too offer.
- He's less of a neoconservative then Graham, McCain, Ayotte or even Burr.
- He's less of a social conservative then Cruz or Walker.
- He's not obnoxious on a personal level like Cruz or Christie.
- From a local GOP level, he benefits the FL GOP in ways Trump can't - aka with minorities (Hispanics/Latinos, Jews, LGBTs, Blacks etc...). Same goes for Republicans like George P. Bush in Texas.

TL;DR:
 
Rubio isn't the messiah but he's not satan either. Calm down.
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SATW
SunriseAroundTheWorld
Junior Chimp
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Posts: 6,463
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« Reply #2 on: November 30, 2016, 09:39:14 AM »

Trump coattails? Marco did 7 points better than Trump (who almost lost the state). And the media wasn't biased in favor of Rubio just because one news story exposed Murphy as a fraud.

Yea, no one can argue to me that Trump helped Rubio. Rubio's coalition of voters was different then Trump's.

Looking at Miami-Dade County and even Palm Beach County one can easily see this:

Rubio lost Miami-Dade 54-43 while Trump lost it 63-33.
Rubio lost Palm Beach 53-44 while Trump lost it 56-40
Rubio won like 17% of black voters
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SATW
SunriseAroundTheWorld
Junior Chimp
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Posts: 6,463
United States
« Reply #3 on: November 30, 2016, 10:31:55 AM »

The anti-Rubio and pro-Rubio hacks are both equally obnoxious.

I'm as Pro-Rubio as one gets (without actually getting a fuzzy feeling in my pants)

I volunteered and interned for his presidential campaign
, I happily supported him for his re-election in Florida and I hope he runs for president, becomes VP or a Cabinet member in the future but he's not actually flawless. Nor is he a shoe-in for a future presidential run.

His debate performance was actually really bad against Christie. His flip flopping on a senate run was cringeworthy.

It is also of note that  no candidate - including Ted Cruz, Nikki Haley, Scott Walker, or others - are shoe-ins for future/potential pres runs.

This is politics, not a sporting event nor is it a beauty pageant. Also, as many of us know, Trump's election has and will continue to change our political system.

Moving onto the haters:

- I don't really see how he's so bad in many of your eyes. I can see why you seem him as an empty suit, why you can see him as an attention whore or a overhyped pretty boy but he's not even close to the "worst" the GOP has too offer.
- He's less of a neoconservative then Graham, McCain, Ayotte or even Burr.
- He's less of a social conservative then Cruz or Walker.

- He's not obnoxious on a personal level like Cruz or Christie.
- From a local GOP level, he benefits the FL GOP in ways Trump can't - aka with minorities (Hispanics/Latinos, Jews, LGBTs, Blacks etc...). Same goes for Republicans like George P. Bush in Texas.

TL;DR:
 
Rubio isn't the messiah but he's not satan either. Calm down.

Rubio is quite socially conservative and assertive on foreign policy.  I'm not really sure what issues you are talking about, especially on social issues (I like Cruz, Walker, and Rubio all about equally).

I'm referring to specific rhetoric usage. Cruz is much more aggressive and open about his social conservatism while Rubio is "social conservative with a smile and a hug."

Also, yes, he is very much a foreign policy hawk/neoconservative but he's not John McCain or Lindsey Graham.

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SATW
SunriseAroundTheWorld
Junior Chimp
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Posts: 6,463
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« Reply #4 on: November 30, 2016, 11:16:33 AM »

Any actual evidence of this or is the LGBT community again going after the wrong people?

Trump clearly never cared about revoking LGBT rights and his statements clearly mirror that. I believe Rubio is from the same school of thought on this. Rubio opposes Pro-LGBT equality measures but won't go out of his way to revoke them.

If people think that this is somehow the same thing as Ted Cruz's or Mike Pence's firebreathing anti-LGBT views then they are misguided.
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SATW
SunriseAroundTheWorld
Junior Chimp
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Posts: 6,463
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« Reply #5 on: November 30, 2016, 12:00:23 PM »

Nuance is not appropriate in this case, Sunrise. Everything less than complete and utter exultation over Rubio's existence is a crime against humanity.

lmaooo ok bruh haha
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