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Bacon King
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« on: September 26, 2012, 08:04:31 PM »

How about Xavier Becerra?
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Bacon King
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« Reply #1 on: September 30, 2012, 01:07:12 PM »

Pelosi: She has much better caucus discipline than Boehner, so despite intensely disliking her she gets props from me for caucus management.

Agreed; for all the roadblocks the Senate caused in 2009-2010, Pelosi demonstrated some incredibly impressive organizational efforts in corralling just enough of the House's Blue Dogs to pass Health Care Reform, Don't Ask Don't Tell repeal, Dodd-Frank, Cap and Trade, DISCLOSE Act, etc, all with very narrow margins. If you look at the roll calls, the most impressive thing is the way she had the conservative Democrats trade off, so they all passed with as few votes as possible with every Blue Dog being able to tell their constituents they opposed Pelosi on at least several of the major pieces of the Democratic agenda.
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Bacon King
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« Reply #2 on: September 30, 2012, 01:47:57 PM »

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Yes, but that has been done by both parties since rocks cooled. But it didn't obtain with Obamacare, where there were no votes to spare. Altmire said Pelosi beat him up mercilessly. Pelosi needed more bodies than volunteered  to walk the plank.

It did work with Obamacare, though! That's exactly what I'm talking about- it must have been an insane organizational effort to successfully pull this vote off as the leader of the majority party. Figure out the 15% of the 258-member caucus who can't or won't vote for the bill (whether it's ideological reasons or just re-election concerns) while still managing to persuade, cajole, and rally your party so you still have a single vote to spare. That's pretty damn impressive, IMO.
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