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« on: February 23, 2015, 09:49:08 PM »
« edited: March 22, 2015, 05:24:11 PM by New Canadaland »
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« Reply #1 on: February 24, 2015, 10:58:48 AM »
What would constitute gross inactivity? 7 days of not posting and missing two votes in that period? That was the definition used in the amendment to Article I on inactivity.
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« Reply #2 on: February 24, 2015, 06:30:36 PM »
Quote from: 🍁 Hatman on February 24, 2015, 05:20:26 PM
I oppose this. It's clearly a politic tactic for the right wing to gain a majority in the Assembly.
The governor can still veto if there is a 2-2 vote with Lt. gov voting in favour, there won't be any change in the balance of power.
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« Reply #3 on: February 27, 2015, 10:42:09 AM »
I agree with Shua, what does everyone think about this amendment to the amendment?

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« Reply #4 on: February 27, 2015, 08:39:38 PM »
« Edited: March 01, 2015, 01:24:28 PM by New Canadaland »
The reason I introduced my amendment is because my view is that a 2-2 tie that was the result of an abstention should be able to be broken. But I think now that if one legislator is missing for a short time, then there should be a restriction so that a 2-2 tie cannot be broken, so I acknowledge JCL's objection to removing all restrictions.

I withdraw my previous amendment, and I am proposing this amendment instead.
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Edit: made 4 more clear
Edit: included the typo Shua found in 2.
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« Reply #5 on: February 28, 2015, 10:23:24 PM »
My intention was that 3. would come into affect if any of 4a. 4b. or 4c. were true.
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« Reply #6 on: March 02, 2015, 04:22:45 PM »
We should decide on whether we should have a vote on my or Shua's amendment. The two amendments are contradictory, after all.
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« Reply #7 on: March 03, 2015, 01:24:56 PM »
JCL, do you consider Shua's amendment friendly? If so I will call a vote on it.
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« Reply #8 on: March 03, 2015, 09:16:07 PM »
JCL, can you explain the importance of section 4? Ultimately I would accept either mine or Shua's amendments but the rest of the assembly seems to agree that section 4 isn't necessary in its current form.
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« Reply #9 on: March 03, 2015, 10:27:03 PM »
I believe tie-breaking procedure should be more flexible so it does a better job of breaking gridlock, but I'm willing to compromise.
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« Reply #10 on: March 05, 2015, 01:05:10 PM »
Let's start sorting this out. I will call a vote on Shua's amendment. Please vote Aye, Nay, or Abstain.
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« Reply #11 on: March 07, 2015, 02:05:50 PM »
Abstain
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« Reply #12 on: March 08, 2015, 12:10:19 PM »
There has been enough voting time on Shua's amendment, and it has passed 1-0, 2 abstaining.
Assemblyman JCL, would you rather have a vote on my amendment or a final vote now? Like I said I would accept either of the two amendments.
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« Reply #13 on: March 10, 2015, 11:01:26 AM »
I am calling a vote on my amendment. Please vote Aye, Nay, or Abstain. Note that Shua's amendment will be replaced if it passes.
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« Reply #14 on: March 11, 2015, 03:31:58 PM »
Aye
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« Reply #15 on: March 12, 2015, 09:01:19 AM »
The amendment has passed 2-1. A final vote will follow if there is no additional debate by tomorrow.
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« Reply #16 on: March 13, 2015, 09:25:17 AM »
I support Shua's suggestions. Regarding the ambiguity of a deadlock, I am proposing a modified amendment to clarify what a deadlock is.

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Shua, would this suffice?
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« Reply #17 on: March 13, 2015, 09:47:35 PM »
I accept Shua's suggestion. I withdraw my amendment.
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« Reply #18 on: March 14, 2015, 05:44:36 PM »
I am calling a vote on Shua's most recent amendment. Please vote Aye, Nay, or Abstain.
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« Reply #19 on: March 14, 2015, 06:29:45 PM »
Aye
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« Reply #20 on: March 15, 2015, 09:06:43 PM »
By a 3-0 vote, this amendment has passed.
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« Reply #21 on: March 16, 2015, 03:58:47 PM »
I am calling a final vote on the amendment. The final draft is displayed below. Please vote Aye, Nay, or Abstain.

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« Reply #22 on: March 16, 2015, 08:19:24 PM »
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« Reply #23 on: March 17, 2015, 05:57:21 PM »
All assembly members have voted thus I am ending the vote. The amendment passes by a 4-1 vote.
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