NC-PPP: Cunningham (D) 41%, Tillis (R-inc) 40%
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« on: June 21, 2019, 12:52:49 PM »

https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/449729-tillis-democratic-challenger-leads-in-north-carolina-poll

Cal Cunningham (D) 41%
Thom Tillis (R-inc) 40%
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« Reply #1 on: June 21, 2019, 01:09:10 PM »

This is the same poll that had somewhat disappointing numbers for Cooper, so Tillis running only a little ahead of Forest is terrible news for him, as are his abysmal approval ratings. Toss-Up.
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« Reply #2 on: June 21, 2019, 01:09:10 PM »

North Carolina polls typically underestimate Republicans. Tilt R.
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« Reply #3 on: June 21, 2019, 01:26:01 PM »

Good news
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« Reply #4 on: June 21, 2019, 03:41:02 PM »

This is the same poll that had somewhat disappointing numbers for Cooper, so Tillis running only a little ahead of Forest is terrible news for him, as are his abysmal approval ratings. Toss-Up.

Well, the same poll has Trump down by 3, which means that Tillis is overperforming Trump by 2, which is pretty good.
Anyway this poll is using a D+10 sample which is not very representative of the NC electorate
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« Reply #5 on: June 21, 2019, 06:51:26 PM »

This is the same poll that had somewhat disappointing numbers for Cooper, so Tillis running only a little ahead of Forest is terrible news for him, as are his abysmal approval ratings. Toss-Up.

Well, the same poll has Trump down by 3, which means that Tillis is overperforming Trump by 2, which is pretty good.
Anyway this poll is using a D+10 sample which is not very representative of the NC electorate

Actually, it's very much representative of the NC electorate: http://www.centerforpolitics.org/crystalball/articles/registering-by-party-where-the-democrats-and-republicans-are-ahead/

Democrats have an 8 point registration edge in NC.

Maybe you could spend 10 seconds on google before posting next time?
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« Reply #6 on: June 21, 2019, 07:02:00 PM »

This is the same poll that had somewhat disappointing numbers for Cooper, so Tillis running only a little ahead of Forest is terrible news for him, as are his abysmal approval ratings. Toss-Up.

Well, the same poll has Trump down by 3, which means that Tillis is overperforming Trump by 2, which is pretty good.
Anyway this poll is using a D+10 sample which is not very representative of the NC electorate

Actually, it's very much representative of the NC electorate: http://www.centerforpolitics.org/crystalball/articles/registering-by-party-where-the-democrats-and-republicans-are-ahead/

Democrats have an 8 point registration edge in NC.

Maybe you could spend 10 seconds on google before posting next time?


Don’t worry, I already knew this fact. And by the way, I did a post on this subject yesterday. 

Maybe you could be less agressive next time when trying to explain me something.
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« Reply #7 on: June 21, 2019, 07:09:32 PM »

This is the same poll that had somewhat disappointing numbers for Cooper, so Tillis running only a little ahead of Forest is terrible news for him, as are his abysmal approval ratings. Toss-Up.

Well, the same poll has Trump down by 3, which means that Tillis is overperforming Trump by 2, which is pretty good.
Anyway this poll is using a D+10 sample which is not very representative of the NC electorate

Dude, you also need to keep in mind that no one really knows who this Cunningham guy is yet. He has a lot more room to grow once he has more name recognition.

If Tills is already down by 1 when no one knows who Cunningham is, he's going to be down by a lot more once Cunningham gets name recognition. Tills is pretty f'd lol

Remember, in the 2018 house polls, many of the challengers were polling behind incumbents until late in the last month when their name recognition got up.
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« Reply #8 on: June 21, 2019, 07:48:56 PM »

I could see NC voting like this:

Senate: D
Gov: R
President: R by .01
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« Reply #9 on: June 21, 2019, 08:51:10 PM »

I could see NC voting like this:

Senate: D
Gov: R
President: R by .01

I’d take that deal now in a heartbeat.
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« Reply #10 on: June 21, 2019, 08:56:22 PM »

Trump isnt guaranteed nothing except TX in 2020, his ethics and tax cut for rich has made him beatable by a landslide
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« Reply #11 on: June 22, 2019, 02:05:23 AM »

I could see NC voting like this:

Senate: D
Gov: R
President: R by .01

Admittedly, since you live in North Carolina, you probably know more about it than me. However, I find it hard to imagine Cooper and Tillis both losing.
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« Reply #12 on: June 22, 2019, 04:13:48 AM »

This is the same poll that had somewhat disappointing numbers for Cooper, so Tillis running only a little ahead of Forest is terrible news for him, as are his abysmal approval ratings. Toss-Up.

Well, the same poll has Trump down by 3, which means that Tillis is overperforming Trump by 2, which is pretty good.
Anyway this poll is using a D+10 sample which is not very representative of the NC electorate

Dude, you also need to keep in mind that no one really knows who this Cunningham guy is yet. He has a lot more room to grow once he has more name recognition.

If Tills is already down by 1 when no one knows who Cunningham is, he's going to be down by a lot more once Cunningham gets name recognition. Tills is pretty f'd lol

Remember, in the 2018 house polls, many of the challengers were polling behind incumbents until late in the last month when their name recognition got up.

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Dude, you also need to keep in mind that no one really knows who this Cunningham guy is yet. He has a lot more room to grow once he has more name recognition.

It's one way to see the situation, Cunningham is also probably helped by the fact that he has a low name recognition, once he will be more well known he will have higher nagatives.


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If Tills is already down by 1 when no one knows who Cunningham is, he's going to be down by a lot more once Cunningham gets name recognition. Tills is pretty f'd lol

If Tillis is down by 1 in a poll where Trump is down by 3, he is not doomed, far from it, as of now he is probably even the favourite as I think it's very doubtful that Trump will lose NC by more than 2.

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Remember, in the 2018 house polls, many of the challengers were polling behind incumbents until late in the last month when their name recognition got up.

Most of these challengers were in Clinton districts and the polls you are referring to were done by the NYT, here were are talking about a poll from PPP, done for VoteVets (a pro dem super pac) where we don't even have a crosstab.


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« Reply #13 on: June 22, 2019, 01:25:51 PM »

I wish Cunningham had a better website. I want to know his views.
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« Reply #14 on: June 28, 2019, 02:40:38 PM »

This is the same poll that had somewhat disappointing numbers for Cooper, so Tillis running only a little ahead of Forest is terrible news for him, as are his abysmal approval ratings. Toss-Up.

Well, the same poll has Trump down by 3, which means that Tillis is overperforming Trump by 2, which is pretty good.
Anyway this poll is using a D+10 sample which is not very representative of the NC electorate

Actually, it's very much representative of the NC electorate: http://www.centerforpolitics.org/crystalball/articles/registering-by-party-where-the-democrats-and-republicans-are-ahead/

Democrats have an 8 point registration edge in NC.

Maybe you could spend 10 seconds on google before posting next time?

Rofl most of the registration edge in NC is low propensity voters. Dems have never had an eight point edge in actual voters except maybe in 2008.
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