SENATE BILL: Reduction of Registration Requirements Amendment (Pass to Regions)

[Marokai Backbeat]

Atlasia is one of the biggest reasons I continue to post on Atlas and all of Atlasia is roughly a half of my entire posting history. There's no denying it can be a huge motivator in getting people to stay, but..

Perhaps Atlasia is becoming stale due to the lack of new blood.

This is objectively false. We're getting new recruits constantly. It never seems to help anything. Atlasia is becoming stale because none of the mechanics of Atlasia have changed in what feels like eons, there are no nationally dividing controversies and third rails like there used to be, and the political party structures in this game are the most powerful they have ever been and have it in their best interest to make sure there is no shaking up of anything. It has nothing to do with getting new people into the game. I'm not saying that it can't help, but it can't solve the bigger problem.

[bgwah]

Game reform issues can also bore people. I've found that my game-related bills often generate little discussion, while non-game related legislation (such as renaming airports or anything to do with drugs) seems to generate the most passionate discussion, not just among the Senate but among the general public as well.

[Marokai Backbeat]

Constant recruiting is also counter to game reform successes, as most of the newbies have absolutely no understanding of the game yet anyway, and no understanding of why the game needs to be changed. Besides, I assure you, if you actually proposed something big and put your weight behind getting it passed, it would generate a lot of discussion.

[bgwah]

Constant recruiting is also counter to game reform successes, as most of the newbies have absolutely no understanding of the game yet anyway, and no understanding of why the game needs to be changed. Besides, I assure you, if you actually proposed something big and put your weight behind getting it passed, it would generate a lot of discussion.

How does one gain an understanding of what needs to be changed if not by joining?

[Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee]

The current text is the 50:14.

We have a preposal to remove the requirement for registration and create a new one for voting (Is this on top of the current activity/positing requirement or in place of as far as this preposal is concerned?).

We have preposal by bgwah to go as low as 18 posts and I beleive no day requirement.

Finally we have Marokai's idea about dropping the activity/positing requirement down to preserve the the number of voters.


Are these not the current alternatives that have been put forth?

I don't support removing the "X # of posts over the past 8 weeks" rule, if that's what you mean.

I do support lowing the registration post requirement.

No it is not. I mean the 15 day requirement before one can join Atlasia. It had been my fear that, throughout this debate, people were confusing the two. Hence I think it would be wise to clearly collect all the primary arguements in one post so as to avoid the complaint about not knowing what we are debating.

[Antonio the Sixth]

I've made a proposal some time ago that maybe should be considered.

I don't think we should establish 3 different classes of citizens (registered Atlasian, registered voters and actual voters). But since there already are requirements for vote, we can make things even more simple.

For example, if today you have to be there for 14 days before registering, and you have to be registered for 14 days before posting, we can amend it so that it's 7-21 instead.

[Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee]

Can't seemed to reach an agreement and from the looks of it can't even seem to clarify who wants what. Figures. You people are impossiby lazy!

[Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee]

Starts yelling and screaming various incomprehensible nonesense

[Fmr. Pres. Duke]

I've made it clear what I'll go for. There isn't much else I can do.

[🐒Gods of Prosperity🔱🐲💸]

Are there any Senators who support having registering for the game seperate from registering to vote?   I would be concerned that would mean needing two different threads or else it would be confusing for new citizens.

[Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee]

Are there any Senators who support having registering for the game seperate from registering to vote?   I would be concerned that would mean needing two different threads or else it would be confusing for new citizens.

and I don't see how it would bring in enough people by whose participation would improve activity. A handfull of people who can't vote won't do much of anything and would probably be first to go innactive.

[Fmr. Pres. Duke]

I totally oppose the two level registration idea. It's stupid.

[tmthforu94]

The current form of this bill, I believe, is 50 posts and 14 days. Can we vote on that?

[Fmr. Pres. Duke]

This damn thing is still sitting here? As inactive as I've been recently? I might as well not even bother to come back full time! Who needs me!

[Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee]

Since appearently no one is even wanting to do otherwise, then yes we really should proceed to a final vote.


Senators this bill is at final vote, please vote Aye, Nay, or Abstain.

[MASHED POTATOES. VOTE!]

I've made a proposal some time ago that maybe should be considered.

I don't think we should establish 3 different classes of citizens (registered Atlasian, registered voters and actual voters). But since there already are requirements for vote, we can make things even more simple.

For example, if today you have to be there for 14 days before registering, and you have to be registered for 14 days before posting, we can amend it so that it's 7-21 instead.

Class society? No thanks.

[Oakvale]

Antonio's suggestion is interesting, but I think it's overly-complicated.

Aye on the bill as is.

[🐒Gods of Prosperity🔱🐲💸]

Aye

[tmthforu94]

Yankee, unless the bill has changed since June 5th and I just don't see it, the current text is 50:14, not 50:7, as the first post shows.

I urge the Senate to pass this amendment and at least give the regions a chance to vote on it.

[Fmr. Pres. Duke]

Aye for 50:14. Nay if its 50:7

[bgwah]

Aye.

[Ban my account ffs!]

I wish it had gone much further.. but.. aye

[Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee]

I traditionally leave the OP as the original text. Normally on large threads I place the current text in the post with the opening of the final vote, should the current text be several pages back. I appearently forget to do so here.

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[Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee]

Aye

[MASHED POTATOES. VOTE!]

Heh... Aye.