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« on: June 12, 2007, 04:55:23 AM »
« edited: June 27, 2007, 09:47:36 PM by Ebowed »

Establishment of 9/11 Rememberance Day

1. September 11th will now be an Atlasia holiday in rememberance of those who lost their lives on September 11, 2001.
2. All Atlasia institutions will close on that day



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« Reply #1 on: June 12, 2007, 04:58:10 AM »

I motion to replace the text of the bill with the following.

Civil Rights Day Bill

1. July 2 is hereby declared Civil Rights Day.
2. This day shall be a national holiday.
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« Reply #2 on: June 12, 2007, 06:51:08 AM »

How about have both? Public holidays being good and all that.

I'd prefer not to make a national holiday out of 9/11... It's enough of a cheapened spectacle as it is.

Holidays should focus on the positive, not the negative, IMO.
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« Reply #3 on: June 12, 2007, 07:17:49 AM »

I highly doubt that 9/11 would be remembered as a "holiday" as much as it would a remembrance day.

Well, color me shocked that Michael Anthony Naso, Jr. himself supports making a memorial out of 9/11.

I think it borders on paranoia, myself.  What's the point of closing your shops on the day of the terrorist attacks?  To make everyone depressed?  People aren't going to forget that 9/11 happened, but I don't see a holiday to memorialize those who died in Hurricane Katrina.
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« Reply #4 on: June 13, 2007, 10:22:38 PM »

We are voting to replace the text of the bill:
Civil Rights Day Bill

1. July 2 is hereby declared Civil Rights Day.
2. This day shall be a national holiday.



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« Reply #5 on: June 13, 2007, 10:54:43 PM »

Nay, since no explanation of why July 2 has been given.

The Civil Rights Act was signed into law on July 2, 1964.
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« Reply #6 on: June 13, 2007, 11:26:20 PM »

Well, the proposal is not to celebrate the Act, but the cause of civil rights in general.  I chose the date because it would be an iconic date to the civil rights movement.
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« Reply #7 on: June 15, 2007, 04:18:45 AM »

The current tally is 4 ayes, 1 abstention, 2 nays.
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« Reply #8 on: June 15, 2007, 05:14:25 PM »

With 4 ayes, 4 nays, and 2 abstentions, there is a tie.
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« Reply #9 on: June 15, 2007, 05:24:38 PM »

But, I also agree with Al that both are preferable to neither

I don't see anything enticing about the original proposal whatsoever.  Borderline paranoia codified into a federal holiday is never a good idea.  Why should people not be able to go shopping on the afternoon of September 11th, 2019?  It's not like a terrorist attack is ever going to happen on the date of 9/11 again.  The only purpose is to fearmonger people into remembering to vote for an aggressive foreign policy.
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« Reply #10 on: June 15, 2007, 06:17:28 PM »

Are you implying Veteran's Day, Memorial Day, Labor Day, Thanksgiving, Christmas, New Year's and other national holidays are inspired out of fear rather than observance?

I don't see how fear has anything to do with any of those.

There is a difference between appreciating our veterans or remembering those who have died in combat than directly memorializing a specific day solely because of a terrorist attack that occurred on that day.  Plus, it cheapens 9/11 as PBrunsel noted.
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« Reply #11 on: June 18, 2007, 06:35:00 PM »

I motion to replace the text of the bill as follows

Resolution to Honor Victims of 9/11

1. The Atlasian government expresses its wholehearted solidarity with the victims of the September 11th, 2001 terrorist attacks.
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« Reply #12 on: June 18, 2007, 06:52:58 PM »

Amendment

The bill shall be replaced in its entirety as follows:
Expansion of Public Holidays Bill

1. 11 September is hereby declared 9/11 Rememberance Day.
2. 2 July is hereby declared Civil Rights Day.
3. These days shall be national holidays.

I cannot vote for any proposal which makes 9/11 a public holiday.
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« Reply #13 on: June 21, 2007, 01:08:04 AM »

We are voting on the amendment to replace the text of the bill as follows
Resolution to Honor Victims of 9/11

1. The Atlasian government expresses its wholehearted solidarity with the victims of the September 11th, 2001 terrorist attacks.



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« Reply #14 on: June 21, 2007, 04:19:37 PM »

The amendment has passed.
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« Reply #15 on: June 24, 2007, 02:35:26 AM »

We are voting on the following amendment

1.) September 11th will hereby be established as a national holiday referred to officially as Patriot's Day
2.) July 2nd will hereby be established as a national holiday referred to officially as Civil Rights Day
3.) March 8th will hereby be established as a national holiday referred to as Women's Rights Day



Aye, but I will be introducing an amendment to strike Section 1
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