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« on: January 01, 2010, 12:57:24 PM »

Assume Obama is relected. Go.

I say a woman other than Clinton. Kolbuchar?
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« Reply #1 on: January 01, 2010, 01:04:19 PM »

I'd say New York Governor Andrew Cuomo. BTW, you don't think Hillary is going to run in 2016?
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« Reply #2 on: January 01, 2010, 01:08:58 PM »

I'd say New York Governor Andrew Cuomo. BTW, you don't think Hillary is going to run in 2016?

She herself said she wouldn't. (I'm positive that she might change her mind though)

I too say Cuomo would probably be a likely candidate.
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« Reply #3 on: January 01, 2010, 01:09:27 PM »

Senator Mark Warner of Virginia.
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« Reply #4 on: January 01, 2010, 01:15:56 PM »


No. His time has passed.
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« Reply #5 on: January 01, 2010, 01:17:18 PM »


I respectfully disagree.  He'll be 62 on election day, which is not too old to run.  He will easily win Southern and Midwestern primaries, and he has a strong record to run on.
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« Reply #6 on: January 01, 2010, 01:20:46 PM »


I respectfully disagree.  He'll be 62 on election day, which is not too old to run.  He will easily win Southern and Midwestern primaries, and he has a strong record to run on.


I respectfully disagree with you on this topic. I think that Warner's lack of charisma could be a real liability for him and I'm not sure he'd be able (or willing) to raise the huge amounts of money needed nowadays to run a decent nationwide campaign.
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« Reply #7 on: January 01, 2010, 01:57:25 PM »

Hillary is indisputably the most likely Democratic nominee in 2016.  No one in the party has higher approval including Obama.  Her stature and presidential-ityvis higher after this job.  But if Afghanistan turns into Vietnam she could be hurt.  Progressive Democrats will push for a candidate to correct for what may still be viewed a Obama's flaws.  Who knows what their issues will be in 2016 and whether Franken, Feingold or Grayson could fashion that into a winning message.  But identity politics are difficult to overestimate and women will be geared up.  Even if Hillary doesn't run, a woman will end up one of the stronger candidates.

What are the odds (in your opinion) that she'll run in 2016?
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« Reply #8 on: January 01, 2010, 04:04:41 PM »

Cuomo, Sestak, and Gillibrand seem to me as the most likely. I don't think Biden or Hillary will run when it comes down to it.
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« Reply #9 on: January 01, 2010, 05:39:33 PM »

Gillibrand and Cuomo and maybe Hillary
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« Reply #10 on: January 01, 2010, 06:04:24 PM »

Schweitzer, Cuomo, Beau Biden. Hillary is so 2008.
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« Reply #11 on: January 01, 2010, 06:06:32 PM »
« Edited: January 01, 2010, 07:06:22 PM by HawkishDemocrat »

Schweitzer, Cuomo, Beau Biden. Hillary is so 2008.

I think 2016 is a little too early for Beau Biden, since his dad will (probably) get ready to leave the VP slot in 2016 and he will probably ned a little more time to distance himself from his dad's negative qualities (the gaffes, etc.). I agree with you about everything else you said, though.
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« Reply #12 on: January 01, 2010, 07:53:19 PM »

Schweitzer, Cuomo, Beau Biden. Hillary is so 2008.

I think 2016 is a little too early for Beau Biden, since his dad will (probably) get ready to leave the VP slot in 2016 and he will probably ned a little more time to distance himself from his dad's negative qualities (the gaffes, etc.). I agree with you about everything else you said, though.
And 2008 wasn't a little too early for Barack Obama?
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« Reply #13 on: January 01, 2010, 08:39:37 PM »

Schweitzer or Klobuchar, I hope.
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« Reply #14 on: January 01, 2010, 08:50:47 PM »

Warner or Schweitzer
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« Reply #15 on: January 01, 2010, 09:07:23 PM »

If a Democrat had to win in 2016, I'd want it to be Schweitzer.
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« Reply #16 on: January 01, 2010, 09:09:23 PM »

Could be Brian Schweitzer or possibly Andrew Cuomo.
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« Reply #17 on: January 01, 2010, 10:21:51 PM »

Hillary. She has proven herself to be a team player with Obama, and she will have the most political experience out of the possible candidates most likely.
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« Reply #18 on: January 01, 2010, 10:37:35 PM »

Hillary. She has proven herself to be a team player with Obama, and she will have the most political experience out of the possible candidates most likely.

Will she run, though? As for her being a team player, that's only to improve her image and to possibly further her political ambitions. As for her having the most political experience, I beg to differ. No counting her years as First Lady (where, other than screwing up healthcare reform, she didn't really do much that other First Ladies didn't do), Hillary would have 15 years of experience (8 Senate+8 Sec. of State) in 2016. Meanwhile, Andrew Cuomo (another potential candidate) would have 18 years of experience (4 as Cabinet undersecretary + 4 as Cabinet Secretary + 4 as Attorney General + 6 as Governor), which is more than Hillary's 16 years. Thus your claim about Hillary being the most experienced potential candidate in 2016 is automatically proven false.
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« Reply #19 on: January 01, 2010, 10:43:19 PM »

Hillary. She has proven herself to be a team player with Obama, and she will have the most political experience out of the possible candidates most likely.

Will she run, though? As for her being a team player, that's only to improve her image and to possibly further her political ambitions. As for her having the most political experience, I beg to differ. No counting her years as First Lady (where, other than screwing up healthcare reform, she didn't really do much that other First Ladies didn't do), Hillary would have 15 years of experience (8 Senate+8 Sec. of State) in 2016. Meanwhile, Andrew Cuomo (another potential candidate) would have 18 years of experience (4 as Cabinet undersecretary + 4 as Cabinet Secretary + 4 as Attorney General + 6 as Governor), which is more than Hillary's 16 years. Thus your claim about Hillary being the most experienced potential candidate in 2016 is automatically proven false.

um, lol?
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« Reply #20 on: January 01, 2010, 10:48:50 PM »

Hillary. She has proven herself to be a team player with Obama, and she will have the most political experience out of the possible candidates most likely.

Will she run, though? As for her being a team player, that's only to improve her image and to possibly further her political ambitions. As for her having the most political experience, I beg to differ. No counting her years as First Lady (where, other than screwing up healthcare reform, she didn't really do much that other First Ladies didn't do), Hillary would have 15 years of experience (8 Senate+8 Sec. of State) in 2016. Meanwhile, Andrew Cuomo (another potential candidate) would have 18 years of experience (4 as Cabinet undersecretary + 4 as Cabinet Secretary + 4 as Attorney General + 6 as Governor), which is more than Hillary's 16 years. Thus your claim about Hillary being the most experienced potential candidate in 2016 is automatically proven false.

um, lol?

lol about what? Eveyrthing I wrote is perfectly reasonable.
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« Reply #21 on: January 01, 2010, 10:51:51 PM »

Hillary. She has proven herself to be a team player with Obama, and she will have the most political experience out of the possible candidates most likely.

Will she run, though? As for her being a team player, that's only to improve her image and to possibly further her political ambitions. As for her having the most political experience, I beg to differ. No counting her years as First Lady (where, other than screwing up healthcare reform, she didn't really do much that other First Ladies didn't do), Hillary would have 15 years of experience (8 Senate+8 Sec. of State) in 2016. Meanwhile, Andrew Cuomo (another potential candidate) would have 18 years of experience (4 as Cabinet undersecretary + 4 as Cabinet Secretary + 4 as Attorney General + 6 as Governor), which is more than Hillary's 16 years. Thus your claim about Hillary being the most experienced potential candidate in 2016 is automatically proven false.

um, lol?

lol about what? Eveyrthing I wrote is perfectly reasonable.

The idea that experience is somehow measured simply in years of holding ofice. Not to mention, you completly ignored her time as First Lady.
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« Reply #22 on: January 01, 2010, 11:01:32 PM »

Hillary. She has proven herself to be a team player with Obama, and she will have the most political experience out of the possible candidates most likely.

Will she run, though? As for her being a team player, that's only to improve her image and to possibly further her political ambitions. As for her having the most political experience, I beg to differ. No counting her years as First Lady (where, other than screwing up healthcare reform, she didn't really do much that other First Ladies didn't do), Hillary would have 15 years of experience (8 Senate+8 Sec. of State) in 2016. Meanwhile, Andrew Cuomo (another potential candidate) would have 18 years of experience (4 as Cabinet undersecretary + 4 as Cabinet Secretary + 4 as Attorney General + 6 as Governor), which is more than Hillary's 16 years. Thus your claim about Hillary being the most experienced potential candidate in 2016 is automatically proven false.

um, lol?

lol about what? Eveyrthing I wrote is perfectly reasonable.

The idea that experience is somehow measured simply in years of holding ofice. Not to mention, you completly ignored her time as First Lady.

Remind me again how her being first lady gave her political experience? The only non-ceremonial thing she did as First Lady is screw up healthcare reform. BTW, are you messing with me?
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« Reply #23 on: January 01, 2010, 11:06:04 PM »

Hillary. She has proven herself to be a team player with Obama, and she will have the most political experience out of the possible candidates most likely.

Will she run, though? As for her being a team player, that's only to improve her image and to possibly further her political ambitions. As for her having the most political experience, I beg to differ. No counting her years as First Lady (where, other than screwing up healthcare reform, she didn't really do much that other First Ladies didn't do), Hillary would have 15 years of experience (8 Senate+8 Sec. of State) in 2016. Meanwhile, Andrew Cuomo (another potential candidate) would have 18 years of experience (4 as Cabinet undersecretary + 4 as Cabinet Secretary + 4 as Attorney General + 6 as Governor), which is more than Hillary's 16 years. Thus your claim about Hillary being the most experienced potential candidate in 2016 is automatically proven false.

um, lol?

lol about what? Eveyrthing I wrote is perfectly reasonable.

The idea that experience is somehow measured simply in years of holding ofice. Not to mention, you completly ignored her time as First Lady.

Remind me again how her being first lady gave her political experience? The only non-ceremonial thing she did as First Lady is screw up healthcare reform. BTW, are you messing with me?

LOl. Am I messing withyou? You are messing withthis entire forum.

I'd think being married to the President would give you a bit more insight into how to do the job than would bing Attrone General or Governor of New York.
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« Reply #24 on: January 01, 2010, 11:12:05 PM »

Hillary. She has proven herself to be a team player with Obama, and she will have the most political experience out of the possible candidates most likely.

Will she run, though? As for her being a team player, that's only to improve her image and to possibly further her political ambitions. As for her having the most political experience, I beg to differ. No counting her years as First Lady (where, other than screwing up healthcare reform, she didn't really do much that other First Ladies didn't do), Hillary would have 15 years of experience (8 Senate+8 Sec. of State) in 2016. Meanwhile, Andrew Cuomo (another potential candidate) would have 18 years of experience (4 as Cabinet undersecretary + 4 as Cabinet Secretary + 4 as Attorney General + 6 as Governor), which is more than Hillary's 16 years. Thus your claim about Hillary being the most experienced potential candidate in 2016 is automatically proven false.

um, lol?

lol about what? Eveyrthing I wrote is perfectly reasonable.

The idea that experience is somehow measured simply in years of holding ofice. Not to mention, you completly ignored her time as First Lady.

Remind me again how her being first lady gave her political experience? The only non-ceremonial thing she did as First Lady is screw up healthcare reform. BTW, are you messing with me?

LOl. Am I messing withyou? You are messing withthis entire forum.

I'd think being married to the President would give you a bit more insight into how to do the job than would bing Attrone General or Governor of New York.

In that case, go ahead and travel to Michigan, Georgia, California, and Texas and ask Betty Ford, Rosalynn Carter, Nancy Reagan, Barbara Bush, and Laura Bush about how much insight they got on how to do the job of President. Might as well ask Michelel Obama about that while you're on it, if you are ever able to meet her.
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