H.R. 748- Interstate Parental Notification Act (user search)
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opebo
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« on: April 29, 2005, 03:41:14 PM »

If you can justify every bloody program of yours under the sun by the Interstate Commerce Clause...then I think this could fall under it as well.

It isn't commerce.
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« Reply #1 on: April 29, 2005, 04:09:34 PM »

Abortion is commerce. You pay someone for a service.

Right, but the commerce doesn't go anywhere, the individual does, prior to committing the commerce.  This would be like barring private individuals from Missouri from driving to Illinois to buy cigarettes.
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« Reply #2 on: April 30, 2005, 06:59:07 AM »

Abortion is commerce. You pay someone for a service.

Right, but the commerce doesn't go anywhere, the individual does, prior to committing the commerce.  This would be like barring private individuals from Missouri from driving to Illinois to buy cigarettes.

Restaruants and hotels are considered interstate commerce, but those don't go anywhere either prior to the commerce either. Yet, still they are considered interstate. I'm not disagreeing with your logic, but that's how this whole interstate commerce crap has gone - the extent to which they have taken it out of context is idiotic.

I think those are just hotel and restaurant chains that are doing business in more than one state.
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« Reply #3 on: April 30, 2005, 07:01:03 AM »

This law endangers young women. Hopefully it will get overturned.

How? Let me make it easier for you fools who try to make me feel sorry for these girls.

Step 1: They make a choice to screw a guy, knowing full well that they could get pregnant.

Step 2: They get pregnant.

Does anyone see anything that makes it anything other than the girls fault for being pregnant.

What does 'fault' have to do with it?  That is completely irrelevant.  Do we ask if it is someone's fault for having an accident before we treat their injuries?  No.

Just as she chose to have sex, she should be able to chose to get an abortion.  It should all be up to her, and it is no one else's business.
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« Reply #4 on: May 01, 2005, 12:29:58 PM »

Hell yeah! And any young girl who is stupid enough to get pregnant and get an abortion deserves to be beaten by her parents.

This is precisely the reason that parents should not be informed, unless of course the girl chooses to do so.  Most parents are abusive religious intolerants, and in any case, if they were decent liberal parents, she would tell them on her own.
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« Reply #5 on: May 01, 2005, 12:36:01 PM »

Hell yeah! And any young girl who is stupid enough to get pregnant and get an abortion deserves to be beaten by her parents.

Thank you. I know I'd kick my daughter out of the house if she got pregnant and wanted an abortion.

That is precisely why religious intolerants such as yourself should not be told - the goal is to prevent the girl from being abused.
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« Reply #6 on: May 01, 2005, 01:48:06 PM »


The goal of those who are against parental notification is to prevent abuse of the girl.  That is obvious.
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« Reply #7 on: May 02, 2005, 04:11:42 PM »

Uh, no. I completely agree with "Hitchabrut" on this issue. If my teen got an abortion, I would definitely throw her out on the street.

If I have to take care of the bitch, obviously I have a right to know what she's up to.

Good lord man, that is horrendously abusive.
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« Reply #8 on: May 02, 2005, 04:49:14 PM »

Uh, no. I completely agree with "Hitchabrut" on this issue. If my teen got an abortion, I would definitely throw her out on the street.

If I have to take care of the bitch, obviously I have a right to know what she's up to.

Good lord man, that is horrendously abusive.

Why should I have to take care of her? You only support 'social freedom' selectively.

I never said you should have to, just that to not do so was poor parenting (abuse).  Realistically, if you weren't going to take care of her, you should have aborted her. 
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« Reply #9 on: May 03, 2005, 02:43:44 PM »

If she disobeys him, why should he have responsibility with her. Better to tie her up and dump her in the river.

This is a great example of the political agenda of the GOP and the religious for American women.
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« Reply #10 on: May 04, 2005, 07:24:41 AM »

I personally don't see what's so hard about complying with non-abusive parental leadership.

It isn't.  If the parents were non-abusive, the girl would voluntarily inform them and enjoy their assistance in getting the abortion.  The fact that she does not want to inform them is sufficient attestation from the person best situated to know that they are abusive.

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No it doesn't.  In the parent/'child' relationship, the parent is given virtually all the power.

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