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« Reply #50 on: June 01, 2017, 09:19:48 PM »

Messer says he will make an official decision “in the next couple months.” It does sound like both he and Rokita will run though. Rokita is expected to announce in the early summer. AG Curtis Hill and State Rep. Mike Braun are also looking at a potential run.

http://cbs4indy.com/2017/05/31/television-ads-hint-at-whats-to-come-for-indianas-2018-u-s-senate-race/
http://howeypolitics.com/Files/HPI170525.pdf#page=10

Beautiful. I hope this is a dumpster fire.
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« Reply #51 on: June 01, 2017, 09:24:45 PM »

Messer says he will make an official decision “in the next couple months.” It does sound like both he and Rokita will run though. Rokita is expected to announce in the early summer. AG Curtis Hill and State Rep. Mike Braun are also looking at a potential run.

http://cbs4indy.com/2017/05/31/television-ads-hint-at-whats-to-come-for-indianas-2018-u-s-senate-race/
http://howeypolitics.com/Files/HPI170525.pdf#page=10

Beautiful. I hope this is a dumpster fire.

Curtis Hill just got elected this cycle against no real effective opposition. I'll be amused to see what kind of campaign he runs in an honest-to-goodness cutthroat primary.
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« Reply #52 on: July 13, 2017, 09:27:31 AM »

Rough story from AP on Sen. Donnelly: "AP Exclusive: Senator profits from outsourcing he slams"

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https://apnews.com/6d7d48ba7ae3420982c313192549805f
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« Reply #53 on: July 13, 2017, 10:00:44 AM »

Rough story from AP on Sen. Donnelly: "AP Exclusive: Senator profits from outsourcing he slams"

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Given the Trump family's success with "America First" while hawking cheap ties and dresses made in China with their names literally on them I wonder if these charges stick.
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« Reply #54 on: July 13, 2017, 10:07:46 AM »

Rough story from AP on Sen. Donnelly: "AP Exclusive: Senator profits from outsourcing he slams"

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Given the Trump family's success with "America First" while hawking cheap ties and dresses made in China with their names literally on them I wonder if these charges stick.
Probably not to be honest.
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« Reply #55 on: July 13, 2017, 10:08:42 AM »

Rough story from AP on Sen. Donnelly: "AP Exclusive: Senator profits from outsourcing he slams"

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Given the Trump family's success with "America First" while hawking cheap ties and dresses made in China with their names literally on them I wonder if these charges stick.
Probably not to be honest.

He can mitigate it by coming out hard for protectionism.
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« Reply #56 on: July 13, 2017, 10:22:31 AM »

Rough story from AP on Sen. Donnelly: "AP Exclusive: Senator profits from outsourcing he slams"

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Bad look, but I'm not sure how much or little voters care about the business practices of a senator's brother.

It's stranger to me that he owns shares valued at 50,000, but received a dividend of between 16,000 and 50,000. That's a pretty high div % relative to the value of the stock.

As for the race itself, this was already a seat that was going to be decided by slim margins. Something like this certainly doesn't help.
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« Reply #57 on: July 14, 2017, 12:39:28 PM »

Seung Min Kim @seungminkim
Wow-@SenDonnelly says he's selling stock in brother's company after AP revealed it uses Mexican labor as Donnelly rails against outsourcing

https://twitter.com/seungminkim/status/885904866589147140
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« Reply #58 on: July 18, 2017, 07:04:46 PM »

Ran a GCS poll of Donnelly vs. Rokita. Raw results were 25-20 Donnelly. Undecided was 36 (19 said unlikely/unregistered to vote). Will weight results when I have more time on my hands.
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« Reply #59 on: July 18, 2017, 10:54:52 PM »

https://twitter.com/KimberlyRailey/status/887372526036422657
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« Reply #60 on: July 20, 2017, 06:07:57 PM »


Not sure what Messer was thinking moving out of Indiana consider how much hay was made about Bayh's residency. Could be enough for Rokita to be favored.
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« Reply #61 on: July 21, 2017, 01:51:28 AM »


Not sure what Messer was thinking moving out of Indiana consider how much hay was made about Bayh's residency. Could be enough for Rokita to be favored.

Very bad look for Messer.
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« Reply #62 on: July 21, 2017, 02:16:20 PM »

What a pathetic recruiting season its been for the GOP.

I like Messer, but he's a fool for moving out of Indiana. I dislike Rokita, though Sad
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« Reply #63 on: July 22, 2017, 11:26:34 PM »

lol Rokita says natural disasters are "God's will":



Well, I guess it's a step up from rape.
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« Reply #64 on: July 22, 2017, 11:56:03 PM »

I don't really see a problem with that.
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« Reply #65 on: July 23, 2017, 12:00:51 AM »

I don't really see a problem with that.

The average Hoosier voter isn't going to have a problem with it, either. Atheists on the left might chuckle, but otherwise, it's a big bowl of "meh."
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« Reply #66 on: July 23, 2017, 12:03:19 AM »

This isn't bad at all, maybe a tad overreligious, but I see nothing wrong.
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« Reply #67 on: July 23, 2017, 12:18:06 AM »

The main difference from the rape comments were that they used God as an excuse for the behaviors of man in promoting a pro-choice policy stance. Here, it's just semantics.
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« Reply #68 on: July 23, 2017, 09:40:26 AM »

Honestly Messer definitely seems to be a better candidate than Rokita. Rokita seems to be the kind of evangelical moron saying cringeworthy things killing his campaign.
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« Reply #69 on: July 23, 2017, 07:06:19 PM »

Neither seems particularly good. Messer is going to be killed for living in D.C. and being part of the leadership. Rokita would probably be a little better, but is more gaffe-prone. Either way, Donnelly seems to be the slight favorite so far. Still a toss-up.
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« Reply #70 on: July 23, 2017, 07:17:48 PM »

Of all the vulnerable senators, Donnelly is the most anonymous. A bitter republican primary should give him time to define himself rather than his opponent doing so
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« Reply #71 on: July 23, 2017, 10:12:20 PM »

Does anyone else get the sense Messer may get cold feet and decide not to run? He was supposed to decide by May, and now it is almost August and we haven't heard anything. Messer is young and could rise up in House leadership, and would definitely win reelection. He may want to avoid a tough primary with Rokita (especially considering the whole Messer residency issue) and a close general election against Donnelly in a Trump midterm. While Messer could still run, maybe he will come to the same conclusion as Ann Wagner in Missouri and decide it's not worth it. That's just something I thought of, Messer very well may still run for Senate for all I know
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« Reply #72 on: July 23, 2017, 10:18:42 PM »

Does anyone else get the sense Messer may get cold feet and decide not to run? He was supposed to decide by May, and now it is almost August and we haven't heard anything. Messer is young and could rise up in House leadership, and would definitely win reelection. He may want to avoid a tough primary with Rokita (especially considering the whole Messer residency issue) and a close general election against Donnelly in a Trump midterm. While Messer could still run, maybe he will come to the same conclusion as Ann Wagner in Missouri and decide it's not worth it. That's just something I thought of, Messer very well may still run for Senate for all I know
He could still enter, but at this point, it is very likely he goes Ann Wagner and says no. In addition to the residency issue and a tough primary, you have to remember, as noted before, that he's very well positioned in the House: Unlike Wagner, he has a VERY safe district that wont be targeted, and he's near the top of leadership, with a very plausible path to the speakership.
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« Reply #73 on: July 25, 2017, 05:01:00 PM »

Sounds like Messer's in tomorrow.
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« Reply #74 on: July 25, 2017, 05:03:03 PM »

As someone who doesn't know much about Indiana politics, is this good news or bad news for Donnelly?
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