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Question: Should the U.K replace Trident?
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Yes		  
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Yes, but only half of it		  
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No, replace with cheaper system		  
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Filuwaúrdjan
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« on: December 01, 2006, 02:20:00 PM »
The nuclear issue is slowly seeping back into the news. A vote in the Commons on the issue is likely next year; it'll be interesting to see how many Unilateralists there are in the current PLP.

(I vote No, btw).
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Filuwaúrdjan
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« Reply #1 on: December 01, 2006, 02:56:52 PM »
Quote from: bullmoose88 on December 01, 2006, 02:50:40 PM
We're talking about Trident SLBMs right (D-5s)?

Er... the nuke things. I don't know about the letters and numbers because I'm not obsessed with things that are designed kill a lot of people.
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Filuwaúrdjan
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« Reply #2 on: December 01, 2006, 03:18:39 PM »
Quote from: bullmoose88 on December 01, 2006, 03:05:56 PM
Well..SLBM=Submarine Launched Ballistic Missile...

Submarine? Yes then.

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Oh don't worry, it shows Tongue

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No. But something mentioned in the debate is "independent nuclear deterrent".
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Filuwaúrdjan
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« Reply #3 on: December 04, 2006, 11:15:38 AM »
There does seem to have been a small concession from Blair on this; 20% of the warheads will not be replaced and neither (probably) will one of the submarines.
A three month "consultation" is going to happen now, followed by a vote in the Commons (which will result in Trident getting replaced o/c; the Tories have always loved nukes and will vote in favour).
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Filuwaúrdjan
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« Reply #4 on: March 13, 2007, 05:40:06 AM »
The general estimate is that at least 100 Labour M.P's will rebel on the issue.

Quote from: Mr. Hunter on March 13, 2007, 05:34:17 AM
And some Greenpeace people have climbed a crane at the Commons...

Not exactly going to help matters is it?
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Filuwaúrdjan
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« Reply #5 on: March 14, 2007, 10:01:30 AM »
Well two Scottish M.P's have resigned from the government over this so...
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Filuwaúrdjan
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« Reply #6 on: March 14, 2007, 03:14:05 PM »
Vote is in, Govt. wins it (no suprise). Not sure how many Labour M.P's rebelled but probably around 80, maybe more than that.
Will post a list when one can be found.

Oh and two more people resigned from the Government over this; Stephen Pound and Chris Ruane.
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Filuwaúrdjan
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« Reply #7 on: March 14, 2007, 06:10:38 PM »
Quote from: KEmperor on March 14, 2007, 05:47:22 PM
Is it simply because it's located there?

Something like that IIRC.

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List of rebels is here

My M.P rebelled by the look of it (no suprise). Some of the names are odd though; Godsiff?!!
Interesting to note that Rhodri Morgan's wife rebelled.
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Filuwaúrdjan
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« Reply #8 on: March 14, 2007, 08:06:53 PM »
Out of interest, does anyone know if any M.P's from other parties rebelled?
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Filuwaúrdjan
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« Reply #9 on: March 18, 2007, 10:30:26 AM »

Whu?!

*thud*
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